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Re:Everybody’s Lying About the Link Between Gun Ownership an... by falcolas on Saturday March 24, 2018 @10:29PM (#16670322)
> I find the concept of average Joes owning guns of any description crazy.

It becomes a lot less crazy when you consider that parts of the US still take advantage of guns as protection against wild animals. It becomes a little less crazy when you consider that a lot of people use them as a hobby - target practice (it's part of a few different Olympic sports).

Guns are, practically speaking, no more or less crazy than Bowie knives, hunting bows, cross bows, or any number of other devices purpose built for hunting.

> the elephant in the room is the massive cultural problem the US has with firearms

Yeah, definitely an issue. It's, oddly enough, largely a city vs. country issue. People in the city have no practical use for guns. People who don't have the miles of concrete protecting them from the wilds tend to take a much more practical view on the usefulness of, the need for, tools that can protect them from predators with teeth and claws.

I've been within 100 yards of a black bear with her cubs. I'm glad I had a pistol at the time. I'm even more glad I had no cause to use it.

Re:Everybody’s Lying About the Link Between Gun Ownership an... by DanBC on Saturday March 24, 2018 @10:54PM (#16670416)
> Guns are, practically speaking, no more or less crazy than Bowie knives, hunting bows, cross bows, or any number of other devices purpose built for hunting.

US schools haven't seen a mass murder using knives, hunting bows, or cross bows. US school mass murders involve handguns and rifles.

Re:Everybody’s Lying About the Link Between Gun Ownership an... by falcolas on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @10:29AM (#16688715)
I can do a google search and find at least three "school stabbing sprees" in the US on the first page. In fact, it seems like you're much more likely to be stabbed while going to school than shot.

Sharks kill, on average, about as many people as school spree shooters per year. Those deaths to sharks are preventable by offing all the sharks, are we doing that?

Making policies based on outrage is a losing proposition.

Re:Everybody’s Lying About the Link Between Gun Ownership an... by sleavey on Sunday March 25, 2018 @04:18AM (#16671287)
> Guns are, practically speaking, no more or less crazy than Bowie knives, hunting bows, cross bows, or any number of other devices purpose built for hunting.

I somewhat agree with the similarity, at least for rifles; however, many firearms in the US are legal and definitely not suitable nor intended for hunting. For the record, in the UK there are also rifle clubs and farmers are allowed to have rifles to protect their livestock from wild animals, but both groups get yearly inspections from the police and in general the police will know that you keep guns and therefore keep an eye on you. You have to keep the ammo separate from the guns, and both in locked containers with different keys. Hand guns are completely outlawed because they couldn't be justified in the context of hunting or protecting livestock.

> I've been within 100 yards of a black bear with her cubs. I'm glad I had a pistol at the time. I'm even more glad I had no cause to use it.

True. The wild animals in rural US are much more dangerous than in the UK, and so, like in the UK, there are some good but narrow reasons to own certain kinds of firearm. We seem to agree the issue is mainly guns (especially handguns) in cities. I hope the US can find a solution that keeps both inner city and rural dwellers relatively happy.

Re:Everybody’s Lying About the Link Between Gun Ownership an... by actsasbuffoon on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:21AM (#16671860)
Black bears aren't as violent as many people think. They kill less than one person per year.

I'll grant you, encountering a mother bear near her cubs is not a good scenario. I certainly wouldn't volunteer to be in that situation, but statistically speaking, you were unlikely to be harmed.