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Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by Delmania on Friday March 23, 2018 @12:22PM (#16659661)
> You can disagree with the means of the war, but the intent was to help society and the people most vulnerable in society by eliminating drugs through force.

Ha, ha, no it wasn't. It was started by Republicans to get people angry at the hippies and black people. Read this: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nixon-aide-war-drug...

The salient quote is: "“We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

A true "war on drugs" would seek to increase access to rehabilitation and counselors, while identifying and working to reduce the causes of addiction. Any time a lawmakers seeks to make something punishable by jail time, he is seeking to hurt someone he disagrees with. (There are obvious exceptions, like murder, theft, etc).

Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by meri_dian on Friday March 23, 2018 @02:44PM (#16661336)
Sure that may have been one individual's motivation for the plan, but the public and subsequent governments thought it was a the best way to prevent drugs from infecting society.

When lawmakers seek to punish someone, they aren't doing it because they relish the suffering of the other person, but because they hope that person's pain will dissuade others from committing those same crimes.

Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by Falling3 on Friday March 23, 2018 @07:56PM (#16663711)
>lawmakers seek to punish someone, they aren't doing it because they relish the suffering of the other person, but because they hope that person's pain will dissuade others from committing those same crimes

Unfortunately this belief is completely unfounded in reality. I really wish this were the case, but we have mountains of evidence on how to help people fight addiction, poverty, get out of the criminal cycle, etc. And that's all ignored in favor of punishment.

Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by malnourish on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:56PM (#16660798)
Are theft and murder so obvious?

Obviously murder is among the greatest tragedies, but often it's a product of circumstance. Theft especially so

Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by meri_dian on Friday March 23, 2018 @02:45PM (#16661342)
Really? A product of circumstance? How so?
Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by malnourish on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @11:09AM (#16689203)
A product of circumstance in the sense that murders and theft often occur in low income, low education areas. It doesn't excuse the behavior, but it does shine a light in a place we can make drastic improvements.
Re:Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response t... by tomc1985 on Friday March 23, 2018 @07:31PM (#16663573)
Little Bobbie Brown observes a 'rat' try out his brand new cement shoes. One of the boss' hired help sees Bobbie in the bushes, and, in accordance with the boss' desire for no witnesses, moves to kill Bobbie