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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by enzanki_ars on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:57AM (#16658150)
We need to solve a couple of problems first. Right now, standing up a web host correctly is difficult. Getting the settings right is troublesome, buying a domain can be expensive and hard to set up, and directing the DNS of that domain to your home's internet (where most homes, at least in the US, are dynamic addresses) is very difficult. Video hosting is a tricky experience. Delivering quickly at multiple bitrates in an easy to use interface is hard. There is a reason why YouTube, Netflix, and more spend a lot of time working on improving video quality while reducing data usage. Finally, if everyone hosts their one videos, how will discovery work?
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by wensley on Friday March 23, 2018 @06:51PM (#16663332)
Remember WinMX in the early 2000's? It was mostly used for sharing music. That had good discoverability for self hosted files.
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by ironjunkie on Friday March 23, 2018 @10:00AM (#16658201)
Good point. And all of this is exactly what needs to be resolved.

How? I would love to see some initiatives in that area (beside IPFS)

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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by bluGill on Friday March 23, 2018 @11:16AM (#16658981)
There are two hard parts: security and discoverability. As a programmer I know 95% of what is needed already exists, what is left is security and some ease of use.

plex (https://www.plex.tv/) already has most of what you need. However if I put a video of my kid's first words on plex how does grandma find it?

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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by chillingeffect on Friday March 23, 2018 @10:14AM (#16658350)
I would love to see it, too. The good news is that these are all solved problems. It's more about tailoring the information and distributing it. It could be the online equivalent of a Sears article on how to build a shed.

I personally really enjoyed the "Links" sections at the bottoms of everyone's Web 1.0 pages.

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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by krapp on Friday March 23, 2018 @10:18AM (#16658391)
Why host videos rather than torrent them?
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by enzanki_ars on Friday March 23, 2018 @10:50AM (#16658713)
I should have expanded on this in my post, but I judge the level of difficulty on whether someone's grandmother would be able to upload a video from their iPhone/iPad/Android, for example a cute video of their grandson/granddaughter.

It might be easy for us to upload a torrent, but to most others, it is extremely hard, if not impossible.

The other problem with torrents is that it relies on reseeding. Preservation of content is a problem with torrents.

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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by jpindar on Friday March 23, 2018 @12:56PM (#16660115)
What is it about torrents that are specifically difficult for grandmothers? I've used several torrent clients and none of them asked me my age or gender, much less whether I had grandchildren.
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by enzanki_ars on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:13PM (#16660341)
The problem is that you need to show them how to transfer the video to their computer, how to create a torrent for it, and how to send out the magnet or torrent link/file. I would never be able to get any of my grandparents to follow and remember any of those steps, let alone teach them why they need to leave their computer on for me to access it. The entire process is painful. I can teach them to upload to Facebook or YouTube easily. Torrents, not so much.
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by jpindar on Friday March 23, 2018 @02:23PM (#16661127)
That may be true of your grandmother, but what makes you say it's true of grandmothers in general?
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by def_true_false on Friday March 23, 2018 @12:07PM (#16659500)
How is that a problem? Nothing is stopping people from seeding their content themselves or archiving it...
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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by enzanki_ars on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:03PM (#16660206)
Yes, but it relies on people actively doing so. For example, look at the following torrent of the 2012 Olympics Opening Ceremony in 3D [1]. Yes, it is an illegal video copy, but a video that there are no legal ways to access anymore. This torrent has no seeders and because I don't have a copy, I therefore can't seed it.

[1]: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/7487775/2012_Olympics_Openi...

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Re:Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their V... by def_true_false on Monday March 26, 2018 @02:06PM (#16681034)
How is this going to be a problem if the owner/publisher takes care of the seeding (i.e. they run a seeding node instead of or in addition to serving the content the traditional way)? IP laws have almost nothing to do with the way the content is delivered...
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