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Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by throwaway985325 on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:21AM (#16657768)
Don't use AWS, or at least don't put all your eggs into the AWS basket.

AWS has gotten to the service and infrastructure footprint it has today by death marching mediocre talent to ship untested and brittle things. This is true all the way down into the physical infrastructure, which often breaks and causes regional havoc. Great examples from the last 6 months include the 40 minute outage in US-WEST-2 in September, or the several hour event in US-EAST-1 during the East Coast wind storms. Bubble gum and baling wire.

They're trying to stabilize things, but leadership and sales are often committing to large spend customers and financing new features with technical debt (when current technical debt is not being serviced). Those at the top are not really concerned with running a solid or innovative platform as much as just pure growth and revenue.

Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by ex-aws-now-goog on Friday March 23, 2018 @10:35AM (#16658572)
I worked at AWS before moving to Google. AWS is not perfect (their oncall story being a good example) but they have _a lot_ of very talented engineers and are _really_ good at doing ops (and cloud systems are necessarily sprawling, complex beasts that require a lot of operational support).

Perhaps your corner of AWS isn't as nice as the one I worked in but to generalize that to AWS management "death marching mediocre talent to ship untested and brittle things" is a very inaccurate assessment of AWS and its customers' perceptions of their products.

Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by pavel_lishin on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:31AM (#16657860)
> Great examples from the last 6 months include the 40 minute outage in US-WEST-2 in September, or the several hour event in US-EAST-1 during the East Coast wind storms. Bubble gum and baling wire.

Were other non-Amazon companies impacted directly by the storms? I have no idea where Microsoft and Google cloud server farms live, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that a major weather event causing downtime is due to "bubble gum and bailing wire". You could be right - I don't know anything about their setup - but "throwaway985325" isn't exactly a trustworthy source.

Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by throwaway985325 on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:42AM (#16657965)
I work on an internal service, and my weekly metrics reflect the health of a lot of services. It's more often than not that those metrics look like a printout from a seismograph sitting on an active fault.

I don't know if other cloud providers were impacted, but I'm willing to bet they were not impacted intermittently for 6 hours.

Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by hacknat on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:40AM (#16657948)
Umm, GCE literally had a total global failure in 2016, AWS has never suffered such an event.
Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by toomuchtodo on Friday March 23, 2018 @12:47PM (#16660001)
AWS has suffered region wide outages of services that go unreported on their service status page for hours.
Re:Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2018? Azure, AWS, ... by hacknat on Friday March 23, 2018 @09:03PM (#16664060)
Region wide is not the same thing as all regions at once.