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Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by dragonwriter on Friday March 23, 2018 @02:26AM (#16655583)
> This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto.

It would be insanity for the President to veto a spending bill needed to avert a shutdown because it included a provision the Administration has publicly supported and actively sought.

> Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome

Omnibus spending bills are fine — the particular financial provisions of any one may be good or bad, but the concept is fine; they are a completely sensible way to set government finances rather than doing it piecemeal.

Non-germane law changes tacked on to an omnibus spending bill, especially one being passed shortly before the expiration of current spending authority, are, OTOH, a different issue.

Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by syshum on Friday March 23, 2018 @06:19AM (#16656553)
>but the concept is fine; they are a completely sensible way to set government finances rather than doing it piecemeal.

No they are not fine, not has they are used today. Congress as normal has abused the power of these bill this being a prime example.

This is why we need a Constitutional Amendment to bring the US Constitution in line with 41 US States where the Single Subject Rule is enforced.

We also need to bring back the Line Item Veto

We also need a mandatory Public Comment period, I propose 1 day for every 10 pages of Text... so for this bill it would have required 223 days of public comment before a vote would have been allowed, instead of what 12 hours this one got from the time it was submitted until it was being voted on

Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by jakeogh on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:03PM (#16660205)
The line item veto will never be back, it should never have happened. Congress writes laws, not the executive. I'm with you on the rest of that.
Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by syshum on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:36PM (#16660574)
>>Congress writes laws, not the executive

and the executive approves them, that is the check. If they created a Single Issue rule it would not be an issue anyway, but if they are going to have the ability to pass omnibus bills then a check on that is the line item veto, no line item veto not omnibus they should go hand in hand

Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by jakeogh on Friday March 23, 2018 @01:46PM (#16660687)
It changes the meaning of the law as written.
Re:Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes by dragonwriter on Friday March 23, 2018 @04:06PM (#16662180)
> if they created a Single Issue rule it would not be an issue anyway

The single issue rule does not stop omnibus spending bills (which is exactly what normal budget bills are.)