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Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by exabrial on Thursday March 22, 2018 @02:23PM (#16651192)
To be clear, where did the money come from to build such things? If it came from a free giving choice from nearby residents, that is incredible, and I'm blown away by their generosity and we should study how they raised the funds. If it came from a tax that you cannot opt out of, it is wrong, regardless of the end result.
Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by invincing on Thursday March 22, 2018 @03:48PM (#16652032)
I suppose you don't live in Finland, because I've never heard opinions like that from a fellow Finn.

Last night the outdoor temperature here was -20 C (-4 F). In conditions like this, it's basic human behaviour to give shelter to those in need. I gladly pay taxes so that the government can solve the problem in the most efficient way for the society. It would be much more expensive to let the ER and health care system handle these people when they get severely frostbitten outside.

Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by Sileni on Friday March 23, 2018 @11:57AM (#16659370)
That's our jam here in the US. Can't afford $1k/month rent? Sleep in the streets, or get assaulted in an overcrowded shelter. If you're lucky once you freeze off a couple of toes you'll be taken to a hospital, where they'll load you up with debt. Then, we'll pass you off to one of our for-profit prisons for failing to pay off the debt, who will also charge you for the time you spend in the prison.

This is an actual worst case scenario in our country. If you think we're a little psychotic, it's because if we've experienced poverty in our lives at all, that daily lottery draw has been in the back of our minds since. That sort of insecurity just does not go away.

Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by lurquer on Saturday March 24, 2018 @01:38PM (#16667761)
In light of the weather, would one expect a sizesble number of truly homeless people? Regardless of gov't policy, Finland isn't the place where one can sleep outdoors on the sidewalk or on a park bench. Such a person will either find housing, die, or get train ticket to Italy.
Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by nkoren on Thursday March 22, 2018 @03:05PM (#16651638)
I'm all in favour of opting out of taxes -- provided that one simultaneously opts out of using public roads and utilities; opts out of being protected by public police, fire, and emergency services; opts out of using public legal regimes for the enforcement of contracts and property rights; and opts out of being able buy goods or receive services from people who have been received public educations.

If you're happy to live without any of those things, then fine -- don't pay taxes.

Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by magnetic on Thursday March 22, 2018 @05:26PM (#16652852)
I think you've been downvoted a bit hastily because you didn't agree to the "forced subsidy" that came in the form of taxes. One reply caricatured your stance as if you said you didn't want to pay any taxes at all.

More importantly you should have read the article until the end. It mentions that the program pays for itself. In other words, the government spends less by providing this housing to the homeless, because the savings due to medical/emergency services are _larger_ than the costs of providing the housing.

From a pure money perspective, it sounds like they cost less to society when they are provided housing, so your concern is somewhat moot if you only look at the monetary side of things (which is, I believe, the angle you were concerned about).

Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by exabrial on Saturday March 24, 2018 @12:05AM (#16664803)
Exactly. I'm more than willing to pay for things I use and see worthwhile as investment in my community. However the government is not a charity, and if it were, their monetary efficiency would be very very low (revenue collected : actual benefit ratio).
Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by namlem on Monday March 26, 2018 @02:11AM (#16676985)
Would you care to provide evidence that the Finnish government's efficiency is so low, or is that baseless speculation?
Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by iyrkki_odyss on Thursday March 22, 2018 @03:50PM (#16652054)
The money comes from Taxes (Ministry of Environment) and from Finland Slot Machine Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland%27s_Slot_Machine_Assoc....
Re:Finland's homeless crisis nearly solved. How? By giving h... by vardump on Thursday March 22, 2018 @07:07PM (#16653562)
That's probably preferable compared to building prisons.