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Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by hcknwscommenter on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @11:10PM (#16645369)
There is no way, full stop, that Arizona regulators allowed a driverless car with only a single dashcam quality level camera as telemetry to drive around. Either Uber broke the law and let a car on the road that doesn't have working LIDAR and IR and possibly RADAR or the software just doesn't work.
Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by kenhwang on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:07AM (#16645645)
Arizona is picked as a testbed for self driving cars precisely because regulations are so lax.

Regulations are written with blood.

Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by dullgiulio on Thursday March 22, 2018 @02:52AM (#16646369)
Unsurprisingly, not the blood of the regulators.
Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by Tempest1981 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:53AM (#16645860)
What kind of regulations does Arizona have?

I've recently wondered why there isn't some sort of "test", where they throw various scenarios at the self-driving cars, and see how they react.

Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by mactitan on Thursday March 22, 2018 @03:43AM (#16646613)
These would have been the 1st battery tests by the car company, surely? Child chasing ball is obviously important scenario. Lidar/sw didnt recognize human/bike combo? But blob was moving & system failed to see or avoid moving blob.That makes me think there should also be a pretrip system check like airlines.
Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by Piskvorrr on Thursday March 22, 2018 @04:10AM (#16646741)
Yeah, well, whatever. "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs," to quote another comment from this discussion. /s

Apparently killing bystanders is now okay, if there's a software component to the massacre.

Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by zpr on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @11:44PM (#16645522)
To wit it was not "driverless" as there was a supposed "safety driver" behind the wheel.
Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by sitkack on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:33AM (#16645771)
What controls does Uber have that the "safety driver" is doing their job? When the computer gets confused or its computed probability drops below a threshold, when and how does it alert the driver. How many of these self driving testbeds have a person in the seat just for CYA and not actual safety ?

I'd like to see Uber's logs of all the other pedestrian and vehicle near misses where the computer took corrective action.

What testing did Uber do on a closed course with adversarial conditions? Ball rolls into road with a child following, pedestrians walking under a flickering street lamp, people dressed in costumes, a parade, a protest, service workers, a pickup truck with a lost load.

Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by Scoundreller on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:55AM (#16646108)
Would be cool if the driver had to placebo-drive and the car used that input to assess discrepancies and validate confidence.

When the driver fails to do a task that the computer seems necessary with a high degree of confidence, both get shutdown for further evaluation.

Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 22, 2018 @02:29AM (#16646258)
I don't think that would work. Driving is not a fully conscious, deliberate see-analyze-act loop. A lot of your control movements are subconscious, and you expect instant, correct feedback from the vehicle. To see what I mean - if you've ever played a racing game, try opening a racing replay/Let's play video on YouTube, pretend for a while that you're in control (use your WASD keys), and see how your brain complains about your inputs having no impact on reality.
Re:Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident by booleandilemma on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:39AM (#16645790)
From the video it appears that the safety driver was checking her phone at the time of the incident.