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Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by cryptoz on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:40PM (#16643553)
So Obama's campaign violated the Facebook terms of service and illegally used the data they obtained, combined with funds illegally collected from a hostile foreign power, and used the user data to spread disinformation and lies about US politics?

Is that what you're saying? Because otherwise, the two cases are completely different.

Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by xienze on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:47PM (#16643627)
> So Obama's campaign violated the Facebook terms of service and illegally used the data they obtained

By a campaign staffer’s admission, Facebook personally told them that what they were doing was not OK so... yes?

> combined with funds illegally collected from a hostile foreign power

Is this a new talking point? Russia financed the Trump campaign now?

Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by jayess on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:54PM (#16643685)
It's not new, now literally everything to do with anyone or anything that's not left-wing SJW is now RUSSIAN!
Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by throwaway7656 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:44PM (#16643604)
>combined with funds illegally collected from a hostile foreign power

If you can prove it, Mueller is all ears.

Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by throwaway5752 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:52PM (#16643674)
Seriously, do you think Mueller is immediately publicizing every finding? Do you not see the pattern of indictments?
Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by cryptoz on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:47PM (#16643633)
Alright, while we wait for physical evidence to be public, I will take the assumption that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is probably a duck.

With so many Russians already indicted over this and clear money flows recorded from investigative journalism, I think it is quite clear what happened with foreign funds being used from Russia -> NRA, Trump orgs, etc prior to, during and after the election.

Edit: I have been banned again from replying to HN comments, I do not understand why but I guess it has to do with a lot of people downvoting me quickly. I don't know. Anyway, here is my reply to the comment below.

> CNN

I don't understand what the entertainment company CNN is doing in this conversation. They have nothing to do with this?

> FUD

I am not spreading FUD. I am merely talking about recent news articles in the New York Times and Washington Post. I'm not sure what you mean by FUD here, but surely if there is FUD about it is the FUD that Trump is the legitimate president and that no outsiders or illegal actors had any influence on democracy in the last number of years. That would be the real FUD of the situation.

Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by throwaway7656 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:53PM (#16643679)
Exuse me sir, but this approach is well known as "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt", or FUD in short.

It definitely works, meaning it shifts the public opinion, and quite effectively so, but I would rather examine the facts and form my own opinion after such examination. If I ever want to go to the second step without first one, I can always watch some CNN.

Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by jayess on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:43PM (#16643590)
Nice goal post moving!
Re:Zuckerberg Has No Way Out of Facebook's Quagmire by cryptoz on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:45PM (#16643614)
> Nice goal post moving!

I'm not moving any goal posts. User sverige and everyone else has declined to even mention which "it" is being referred to in this whataboutism of "Obama did it too" stuff. My point is and has always been that there is no comparison to be made here, the usage and methods taken by Obama's campaign are totally simple and small and legal compared to the methods taken by Cambridge Analytica/Facebook/Trump et al. recently.