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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by oregontechninja on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:31PM (#16639706)
It's because we don't like or approve of rails. It doesn't make business sense to us (us being a completely anecdotal group of young developers I'm friends with). There are other solutions that provide sufficiently more developer speed and safety, while also providing much better performance than any rails application.

Edit: I guess I just hang out with like minded people, but our biases shouldn't negate the fact that this is a very common feeling where I am.

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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by oregontechninja on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @02:53PM (#16641207)
To answer many of the replies:

(Most prominent -> least prominent)

Web-related: Go, Elixir, JavaScript, Python

Desktop GUI: Python, C++

Game-Dev: C#, C++

Really its a matter of how much you'll pay us, and I think we've been scarred by too many bloated Rails apps and Wordpress sites to want to work on those.

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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by cutler on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:25AM (#16645993)
Now we work with Node.js which is much better ..... oh, wait I just ran out of disk space after running `npm install`.
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by erokar on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:44PM (#16639851)
What other solutions are you youngsters using then? Elixir/Phoenix? Django/Python? Node? Haskell?
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by mattnewton on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:49PM (#16639922)
Not OP but in my limited experience the MVP slot is mostly held by Django, with Node + typescript, Go and Elixir being the “safer, faster” variants “kids” are using.
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by jarsin on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @01:30PM (#16640429)
Ha it's funny seeing Django in that list because back in day (10 years ago or so) before rails took over I was trying to get everyone to use Django at my job. Then rails exploded and I moved to that.

I honestly thought Django was mostly dead now.

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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by stevenwoo on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @02:10PM (#16640824)
Anecdotally Django seems less common in the job listing post every month than Rails but is still present, and the python experience is relevant to many more.
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by mattnewton on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:10PM (#16643901)
Yeah I think it has to do with there being just more python scripts floating around, and Django (or flask) make it easy to turn that random script into a proper api. Plus CS courses have now started teaching python.
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by wolco on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:54AM (#16645866)
php.
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Re:From Rails to Clojure, Then to Java, Then Back to Rails by michaelbuckbee on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @01:25PM (#16640382)
What stack are you gravitating to?
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