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Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by sillyquiet on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:43AM (#16637884)
I mean, I get that approach, but tbh I would rather hash that out with a company before I get hired rather than 4 months down the road when some HR person notices the paperwork is incomplete.
Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by tomohawk on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:46AM (#16637906)
By that point, the paperwork is complete. The hiring completes the transaction as being satisfactory to both sides.
Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by treis on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:19AM (#16638161)
That's not generally how it works. Modifying a contract without being clear that you are making a counter offer isn't going to hold up in court. They are going to see the company's offer, your acceptance, and then hold you to the original company offer.
Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by ethbro on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:29AM (#16638245)
Fwiw, I'd say at least half of the clauses I've been asked to sign were not included at contract time, but rather at post-contract "do HR paperwork" time.

So I don't see how that could be construed to be 'part of the original offer'.

Especially if you asked (in writing) if such a clause existed and received a negative / no response before signing the contract.

Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by mseebach on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:51AM (#16637943)
Depends. There could be a reference in the main contract listing execution of the non-compete as a condition of the validity of the contract.
Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by Vinnl on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:00AM (#16638012)
I'd still prefer to have issues resolved before I start employment somewhere, rather than having to deal with it when you're already at work and walking away is a bigger step.
Re:Why I Don't Sign Non-Competes by emodendroket on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:40AM (#16638361)
For the vast majority of workers the company has the right at any time to introduce a new contract and require you to sign it as a condition of continued employment.