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Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by Kiro on Monday March 19, 2018 @12:36PM (#16619795)
Yeah, I don't understand how this reduces anything.

Can someone explain?

Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by tyrust on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:41PM (#16620775)
You pay taxes on capital gains.

Suppose that Epic made P income from Paragon and I income from everything else. They are taxed at T.

So if they return P to customers, that's a loss. So they will pay (I - P) * T in taxes and end up with (I - P) * (1 - T).

Suppose they kept P, that's gain. So they will pay (I + P) * T in taxes and end up with (I + P) * (1 - T).

So even though they pay less in taxes ((I - P) * T < (I + P) * T), they will end up with less money ((I - P) * (1 - T) < (I + P) * (1 - T)).

Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by mbesto on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:20PM (#16621391)
Whoa, even I couldn't follow this :)

Basically, what it means is the following:

Year 1 - I spent $10M on Paragon (let's pretend I've made a single dollar from it). I therefore have negative -$10M in profit, so I pay zero taxes.

Year 2 - I shut Paragon down. I still have $10M in losses from Paragon. Fortnite does $30M in Revenue and it cost me $20M to build Fortnite in Year 2. Theoretically I profited $10M in year 2 and I'd have to pay ~30% (thats not the real number, so don't correct me) of that in taxes, so I really only get to keep $7M of that to reinvest.

But I get to carry my loss forward from Year 1 onwards. So in theory I get to keep more of my profit due to a smaller tax burden. Generally speaking this is usually done over 5 years. So I'd take $10M and amortize it $2M ever year. Meaning Year 2, instead of paying 30% of $10M, I would pay 30% of 8M, so $2.4M versus $3M. It's obviously way more complicated than this, but this is the gist.

Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by tyrust on Monday March 19, 2018 @04:32PM (#16622822)
You're describing the situation assuming that Epic has already taken the loss.

I'm describing the tradeoff between intentionally taking the loss (i.e. allowing returns of the game) vs keeping the profits they've made.

Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by dorgo on Monday March 19, 2018 @04:53PM (#16623048)
I don't get your math, but (I+P) - (I-P) = 2P. It seems wrong that that the difference between the two scenarios is 2P.
Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by simaracode on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:12PM (#16620278)
You basically can take a Tax deduction on capital losses, meaning paying less tax (Super simplifying the complex US Tax Code) https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/062713/capit...
Re:Epic Games releases $12M worth of Paragon assets for free by IshKebab on Monday March 19, 2018 @06:08PM (#16623707)
It reduces the taxes they pay, but only because they make less profit.

They still have less money and it is in no way better than if Paragon had made a profit.

The "yeay it failed! we get a tax write-off" thing is stupid and wrong.