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Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by underwater on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:17PM (#16608854)
There is a big difference between sharing data with companies, and allowing companies to specify as targeting rules.

Facebook lets companies bid for ads to show you, based on Facebook’s data about your interests and demographics. If you never engage with the ads there is no information leakage.

It’s the difference between telling a random person “I’ll tell my gay friends about your party” and “Did you know that Bob is dating Steve?”.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by alangpierce on Saturday March 17, 2018 @05:14PM (#16609091)
I've heard a lot of people believe otherwise (including a sibling post), so probably best to bring in evidence/sources. Here's Facebook's statement on it: "No, we don't sell any of your information to anyone and we never will." From https://www.facebook.com/help/152637448140583

So if you believe Facebook sells your information, then you also believe that Facebook is directly lying about it on a help page about that specific topic. Sometimes conspiracy theories are true, so it's not impossible that that's what happening, but it's not like Facebook is openly selling your information.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by untog on Saturday March 17, 2018 @06:11PM (#16609324)
No, it's worse, they just gave it away for free.

Until 2014 or so an app could request permission to view almost any data a user stores on Facebook. That's not great, but hey, you could argue it's not Facebook's fault that people don't understand permission prompts (I'd disagree with you, but...). But those same prompts allowed users to give away their friend's data, so absolutely anyone you're friends with could take some stupid personality test and give away your information in the process, and there was no way you'd even know.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by Spooky23 on Saturday March 17, 2018 @06:40PM (#16609426)
You always need to parse statements like this very carefully. Pretty much any other company who isn't providing your information to others says "we do not share your data with unaffiliated entities..."

Facebook said that they don't sell your information. Which is true -- they aren't a data broker. But they implicitly state that your data is shared, subject to the limited controls available. You cannot stop Amazon and Facebook from sharing, for example.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by amelius on Saturday March 17, 2018 @10:26PM (#16610202)
> If you never engage with the ads there is no information leakage.

But what if you do?

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by wdr1 on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:23PM (#16608880)
> Facebook lets companies bid for ads to show you, based on Facebook’s data about your interests and demographics. If you never engage with the ads there is no information leakage.

That's not true.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by threeseed on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:27PM (#16608898)
Please provide evidence then.

I have never seen Facebook allowing large scale harvesting of their data.

And it would qualify as data breaches in places like EU which do not tolerate this sort of thing.

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by OrganicMSG on Saturday March 17, 2018 @05:03PM (#16609050)
Well, they may not officially permit it in public, however they clearly allow it, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by scotu on Saturday March 17, 2018 @08:28PM (#16609869)
do you understand how this data ended up in CA's hands? Regular facebook app asked persmission to get data to it's users, one by one. It then retained the data and shared without facebook or their users permission (and against FB terms). Then facebook realized this data was shared, required CA to delete all of it. CA agreed. CA didn't delete. That's how we are here

I'm no facebook fan by the way, but there's no reason for facebook to sell their most important asset when they can allow you to pay to use it, without ever seeing it

Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by scotu on Monday March 19, 2018 @10:38PM (#16625569)
well, this seems to go deeper then I was anticipating. What I wrote above might not be accurate since the story is still evolving....
Re:50M Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica i... by OrganicMSG on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @04:34PM (#16632315)
Fair play for saying.