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Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by golergka on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:12PM (#16601586)
I'm yet to find a single decent alternative to Excel. It's an excellent data modeling and analysis tool.

And yes, I've learned Python, R and SQL, but these tools are not a replacement for the Excel workflow.

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by matwood on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:15PM (#16601623)
I was coming here to say this. Nothing compares to Excel. The problem with replacing Excel is that it has thousands of features, and every user seems to use a different subset of those features.

With that said, a large majority of users can probably get by with what GSuite offers.

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by rileymat2 on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:19PM (#16601657)
I still have basic problems sometimes with trying to copy out of google sheets. It is unpredictable.
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by hinkley on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:32PM (#16601747)
Long have I wished for an open source spreadsheet tool built on a database backend.

I don’t hear the stories as much these days but for ages it was common for contracting firms to come into a place and find they’d been running the whole operation as an Excel spreadsheet and they had a very poor understanding of how complicated it would be to grow their system. Basically a complete rewrite to a DB model.

I thought for sure when Oracle bought Sun that this would be forthcoming but nothing came of it.

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by zdragnar on Friday March 16, 2018 @01:13PM (#16602155)
That was exactly my experience around two years ago. The brand of the company was far, far more valuable than their internal processes or capabilities as a result, and it was a painful migration (still is, from what I hear).
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by legitster on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:32PM (#16601749)
It's hard to describe why Excel is so good at what it does. The only way I can think to describe it is "the most amount of power for the least amount of work."
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by WDCDev on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:30PM (#16601735)
I agree. I have been using it for over 20 years now, and use it almost daily in many different capacities. Excel along with the entire MS Office suite of applications is ubiquitous across almost every enterprise.

I am curious how Airbus is going to handle external vendors, customers and organizations sending them complex Excel Spreadsheets and Word Documents.

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by karambahh on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:59PM (#16602044)
They are big enough for their contracts to enforce usage of something other than the de facto standard.

Not only are they big but a lot of their suppliers are SMEs which in effect are economically dependent to Airbus (even if they carefully avoid dependence to them in the legal definition of the expression).

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by arbie on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:38AM (#16611870)
The more likely outcome is continued use of Office at vendor interfaces.
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by patrickaljord on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:27PM (#16601711)
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by aaronarduino on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:17PM (#16601638)
It is true, Excel has a wonderful workflow. Something open source with excel workflow combined with R and SQL would be nice.
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by braderhart on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:15PM (#16601616)
What features are lacking specifically that LibreOffice, Google Sheets, or some other cross-platform solution doesn't have?
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by dspig on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:19PM (#16601654)
execution speed would be a big one
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by braderhart on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:20PM (#16601659)
Do you have any performance benchmarking to show the difference between Excel and LibreOffice Calc, because my experience LibreOffice is much better on resources. I would like to see what tests you are using so that I can run them myself.
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by bko on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:18PM (#16601644)
Keyboard shortcuts are huge. Also I’m used to the ribbon which I don’t think they copied yet
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by copperx on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:39PM (#16601799)
The ribbon has a software patent, if I remember correctly. Although it's a UI element, so I'm not sure if it's enforceable?
Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by paulie_a on Friday March 16, 2018 @01:12PM (#16602149)
I am thankful that the ribbon UI is patented, it prevents that terrible experience getting more widely implemented
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Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by sctb on Friday March 16, 2018 @01:00PM (#16602046)
Please stop breaking the guidelines, like we've already asked.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by bko on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:26PM (#16601702)
> I am wondering which Microsoft PR company you work for?

That’s really unnecessary.

I don’t have any of the alternatives available to me right now but if you’re honestly curious I could take another look this weekend and see if every widely used function has a shortcut. But from what I remember many don’t. I would love to see a plugin that maps excel shortcuts to either libre office or open office

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by legitster on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:28PM (#16601722)
> I am wondering which Microsoft PR company you work for?

What an, awful, terrible sentiment. "The only reason someone could ever disagree with me is they are a paid shill".

Re:Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite by golergka on Friday March 16, 2018 @01:33PM (#16602344)
Good products are not just a collection of features.