Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by pulse7 on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:14AM
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My prediction: they will store the history of all Bitcoin transactions and try to identify all wallet owners; when identified they will check if profits were reported and if taxes were paid; if not -> good luck; the same for other countries in the world </end of my prediction>
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Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by IAmEveryone on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:19AM
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How is that even a prediction?
> store the history of all Bitcoin transactions
Bitcoin conveniently does this for them
> and try to identify all wallet owners
That’s the headline here
> check if profits were reported and if taxes were paid
Which is the IRS’ job
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by sp332 on Friday March 16, 2018 @09:59AM
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The bitcoin blockchain does not keep a record of trades you make on Coinbase though.
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by verelo on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:37AM
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I’ve got from good sources that in Canada the RCMP is (...was several years ago) already doing exactly this. And it’s very easy to do since the exchange in question requires ID to create your account.
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by zzz157 on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:25AM
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>Which is the IRS’ job
Ever heard of the 4th Amendment?
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by IAmEveryone on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:30AM
(#16600158)
Sure. And so has the IRS, which “persuaded a federal judge”, according to the article.
I guess they thought it was a reasonable request to get the data of the 25,000 US citizens who made significant profit with bitcoin in those years, when only a few hundred reported such earnings in total.
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by chrisco255 on Friday March 16, 2018 @09:00AM
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That's an estimate at best. How many if tbise who profitted actually cashed out?
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by koolba on Friday March 16, 2018 @09:25AM
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It's not just a matter of tracking those that cashed out as taxes are on the net profits of individual trades. Even converting between coins (ex: sell BTC, buy ETH) is a taxable event.
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by koboll on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:27AM
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Cross-referencing a public ledger is not an illegal search.
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by Karunamon on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:26AM
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The 4th amendment does not prevent combing through public data (the blockchain), nor does it prevent going through due process to obtain data (the coinbase order).
Re:The IRS collects data on Coinbase account holders
by roel_v on Friday March 16, 2018 @08:32AM
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I would say this a very natural and logical thing to do - with the blockchain storing the history of transactions for eternity, you just need to get some programmers to write some code to cross reference a few systems and leave it running for the years to come, catching people as soon as they make a single mistake. The business case and expected ROI for this project must be the easiest one any inspector ever had to write.