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Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 15, 2018 @11:40PM (#16598439)
This comes up in every thread, but it's not realistic. It takes a decade and a billion dollars (at least) to build new nuclear power plants. It's not happening, at least not in the time frame we need to keep global warming below 4C (2C is a pipe dream at this point). [1]

It would only take 0.6 percent of total US land mass covered in solar to power the entire country (about 100 miles by 100 miles). The batteries to back that energy production would only be about 1 square mile. That doesn't take into account residential rooftop solar already producing. Nor wind turbine parks in the middle of nowhere that contribute to farmer and rancher incomes. Offshore wind can be sited anywhere along the costs outside of shipping lanes, far enough off in the distance to not be seen but close enough to keep transmission costs reasonable. We are awash in clean, renewable energy.

To your point about the developing world, India is aggressively deploying solar, and is 4 years ahead of its solar capacity targets.

Solar and wind are ramping on curves somewhere between linear and exponential. They can be turned up in months, not years. They can be sited almost anywhere. They are what is going to win the day.

[1] https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/has-us-nuclear-powe...

Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by loeg on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:03AM (#16598540)
Mass-produced tiny reactors reduce capital cost and construction time. Even without that, energy for 10 years from now still matters.
Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by toomuchtodo on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:06AM (#16598548)
Show me a mass produced tiny reactor in production. If not in production, provide a solvent business that can produce and maintain these reactors.

https://blog.ucsusa.org/mike-jacobs/solar-vs-nuclear

"In comparison with nuclear, the amount of solar power built in 2016, taking into account how many hours each can operate each day, is the equivalent of more than 3 new nuclear plants.

To dive in a little deeper: let’s use a 25 percent capacity factor for new solar, making the 14,626 MW installed equivalent to 3,650 MW of theoretically perfectly running nuclear plants. The Westinghouse AP 1000 units under construction for the last 7-10+ years produce about 1,100 MW. So, in one year, solar additions were equal to what takes more than 7 years to build. The difference in speed of deployment is why UCS (Union of Concerned Scientists) is clear that nuclear power isn’t a near-term climate solution."

So if you're not going to take my (rando HN poster's) word for it, the Union of Concerned Scientists seems somewhat reputable.

Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by djrogers on Friday March 16, 2018 @01:02AM (#16598747)
Mass-produced tiny reactors exist in sci-fi, and maybe some potential long-term future. What we have now are ‘renewables’ so let’s be realistic.
Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by slededit on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:06PM (#16601536)
And also US Navy submarines and large surface vessels.
Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by djrogers on Friday March 16, 2018 @02:55PM (#16603082)
Those are neither mass-produced, nor tiny - they produce 50-500MW of power.
Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by slededit on Friday March 16, 2018 @03:46PM (#16603498)
The SG9 in the latest Virginia class submarines are only 30MW. As of 2001 The Navy has constructed over 235 nuclear reactors, with many more since. An average of >5 per year. For Nuclear reactors that is mass production.

Also because of the way the Navy works their reactors are less bespoke for each ship than traditional land based reactors - and better fit the mass production model. This is something that could scale.

1. http://mragheb.com/NPRE%20402%20ME%20405%20Nuclear%20Power%2...

Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by wongarsu on Friday March 16, 2018 @09:30AM (#16600474)
And how are you going to grow a hyothetical "tiny nuclear reactor" buisiness faster than solar and wind are growing right now? By the time development is done, operating permits are sorted out and production is ramped up the idea will hardly be profitable, and certainly not nessesary anymore.
Re:US utilities have finally realized electric cars may save... by imtringued on Friday March 16, 2018 @07:26AM (#16599913)
Nuclear power is simply too expensive.