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Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:12PM (#16589210)
The things you listed are my primary uses of Google Assistant, but here's some others. What time is it in [location]? What's the temperature outside? Change the temperature inside (nest). Turn off all the lights.

Really the only thing you can't do with Siri that I'm aware of is home automation. But I could be wrong about that.

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by phxrsg on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:13PM (#16589219)
Siri can do home automation with HomeKit and it actually works really well. The disadvantage here is that HomeKit has less supported accessories because, as I understand it, it's less open/requires certification of the accessory.

That said, for engineers in the crowd I know that I and others get around it by making a HomeKit RPi adapter for things that don't support it...

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by exelius on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:23PM (#16589265)
I thought Apple required HomeKit devices to go through a certification process that includes an audit of device security controls (things like secret management, crypto, default passwords, etc) — and very few of these low-cost IoT devices worry about security.

Apple won’t certify them, but there’s not yet a mass market for secure IoT devices (which would necessarily cost more due to the extra engineering required). It’s a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem.

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by photojosh on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @09:41PM (#16589930)
I recently got a certified smart lock, and it's been superb. Any communications outside my network are handled through Apple/HomeKit and I trust them a lot more than some random Chinese IoT supplier.

> That said, for engineers in the crowd I know that I and others get around it by making a HomeKit RPi adapter for things that don't support it...

Yep, they're using HomeBridge. [0]

I'm planning on doing this for my garage door (with a little WiFi dev board) and for a video doorbell (with a RPi with camera). Others have used HomeBridge with a cheap $20 Chinese IP camera to do the same thing, although you have to install an alternate firmware if you don't want the camera to phone home to China... :O

[0]: https://github.com/nfarina/homebridge

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by konradb on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:13AM (#16592986)
Are you able to say what lock you got? Would be interested in getting a decent one.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by Consultant32452 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @12:03PM (#16594010)
I have a Kwikset Kevo that I enjoy. If I have guests they just install the Kevo app and I can send them temporary keys that expire. I don't use the integration, but apparently it's integrated with Alexa.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by konradb on Saturday March 17, 2018 @12:45PM (#16607753)
Thanks!
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by photojosh on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:51AM (#16635563)
Sorry, slow to reply. It's a Schlage Sense. Major selling point for me was that it has a keypad, so I can give non-tech savvy folks an easy in (plus backup in case of flat phone). If you don't want that, there are nicer looking one.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by Twisell on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:16PM (#16589231)
Actually I forgot a 4th usage, I also use Siri to switch my living room hue starter kit to my « cinema » scene from my sofa (all 5% red light).

For all other scenes I usually use the physical hue dimmer button because I’m standing.