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Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @06:41PM (#16580530)
Eh, easily attributed to brain chemistry and not necessarily anything woo.
Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by SherlockeHolmes on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @08:18PM (#16581144)
please oblige and expand on this “easy attribution”. To be clear, it bothers me when we wave away the really hard problems - while we become too enchanted with solutions that barely build on current technology. This company injects chemicals near your brain stem and lets your heart pump it into all minuscule parts of your brain. The apparent allure comes from the potential development of a technology some time in the future that will allow a reanimation of the person seated in that saved brain.

the money they’ve raised so far is due to the possible improvements this proposed technology will bring to neuro research.

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @08:22PM (#16581164)
Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by matte_black on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @07:05PM (#16580688)
There is no known cause. Or cure for that matter.
Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @07:10PM (#16580722)
That's not really a rebuttal of my point.

I have a serious medical condition. I frequently suffer somatopsychic side effects. It's incredible what chemistry can make you feel.

I happen to also believe in a lot of woo stuff. But the reality is that no known cause is not proof that there is a spiritual explanation or cause.

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Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @08:56PM (#16581366)
Sorry you aren't satisfied. There's plenty of information out there about somatopsychic side effects and we know drugs alter mental states all the time. That's so well established, I find it laughable that anyone would even question it.

I'm not very interested in seeking the Nobel Prize in this area. I am busy doing other things that I fantasize will lead to a Nobel Prize.

Best.

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by SherlockeHolmes on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @09:04PM (#16581408)
I am sorry that I was not satisfied.

Mind alterations are induced by drugs. Chemical imbalances influence the same. I just am not convinced that these evidences are enough.

Thank you.

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @09:16PM (#16581454)
If you are sincerely interested in the topic, starting by being dismissive and disrespectful of the individual you are addressing is not an effective means to start a good discussion.

I did a research paper in high school on Functional Hypoglycemia. Chronic low blood sugar is known to promote anxiety and paranoia. I've blogged about managing various somatopsychic side effects with diet, such as eating oranges for the vitamin c while enduring random fits of rage to get that under control and eating beef with potatoes to mediate the salt lithium connection and calm bipolar-like mood swings.

But I am not interested in fighting some uphill battle to convince a skeptic who is just pissing all over me with every reply. So I had no reason to stick my neck out and share any of that. I get enough flak from the world for managing my medical condition with diet and lifestyle.

Edit: There's also lots of interesting stuff about nutrition and state of mind in this discussion about nutrition and the prison population: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16140867#16141719

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by SherlockeHolmes on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @10:35PM (#16581839)
all right. thank you for sharing the resources and information.

I am not invested in this topic, although I should be. In fact, some of the information you shared is valuable to my personal life.

I have a problem with oversimplification of hard problems, then claiming that they are currently understood. Then proceeding to build more extravagant and potentially dangerous solutions on the said platform.

The point you are debating - that of the influence of salts/neurotransmitters/more on brain chemistry, and hence on one’s mental state, can be so profound as to create a world where one experiences a vastly different emotional response to everyday events than what most others anticipate - is understood.

I contested that this is not enough to encourage experimentation with consciousness itself.

edit: the impact of chemistry can render itself in ways where the idea of one’s personality becomes fluid. chemistry can control my reaction to simple things, and render my ability to live my life debilitated. I understand that chemistry can shake at the very sense of having control over my self. I also understand that the external world barely acknowledges the role of chemistry in this, and likes to blame it wholly on the individual.

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @10:45PM (#16581892)
I contested that this is not enough to encourage experimentation with consciousness itself.

You are reading in something I never said or addressed in any way.

Re:A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “1... by CardenB on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @07:47PM (#16580962)
AFAIK, it's frequently linked to anxiety, and SSRIs do a good job of treating it.