But man they try awefully hard to compel you

I am sick of seeing my 15-plus-year music collection relegated to the "Downloaded Music" ghetto of my iphone. Apple's shitty cloud service is not nearly as high quality or cared for as lovingly as mine and I am sicking of seeing it front and center

Play Music does the same thing with the online storage locker... but at least they're hosting my music for free (and streaming me transcodes :/) and letting me download it again

I don't use Apple Music either. I just dislike the idea of not owning something so near and dear to me.

It works OK for me after turning off the "Show Apple Music" option in Settings->Music.

The only really annoying bit left after that is touching a band name link doesn't take me to that band in my library, it goes to some Apple Music type page with everything available, not just what I own.

Wouldn't your music also show up in the rest of your library? The "Downloaded Music" section is just music that's already on your phone and therefore you can listen to without an internet connection. But everything in there should also be present in the other sections of your library.

It gets mixed in with that free U2 album and all the various Starbucks codes I redeemed 10 years ago :/

You can hide music from your library. Apple put out a support page on how to do exactly that something like a week after the U2 debacle.

Here's how to delete from iCloud Music Library: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201323

Here's how to delete iTunes Store content: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204343

For the latter, it says that deleting something you haven't downloaded will hide it from your purchase history as well.

Well you imported those Starbucks songs yourself so you can't really blame Apple for that. Try the "Delete from Library" option -- it works great.

Perhaps but I never explicitly requested or copied that music to my phone, yet it appears there anyway.

Use another app. I've just moved from the built-in Music app to Ecoute and it is so, so much simpler.

Thanks for the tip. Apple's first-party apps used to be top-notch :( Part of the reason I switched from Android was to avoid this kind of BS

Are you familiar with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor...?

> The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle its flagship Internet Explorer (IE) web browser software with its Microsoft Windows operating system

Yes, the issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle it because of their anti-competitive activity in doing so.

If shipping default pre-installed software was deemed anti-competitive, the problems would be much bigger than just Apple Music existing on an iPhone out of a box.

That's like saying a sexual harassment case is about whether or not it's legal to ask someone out. Context is important.

Actually that's false. The primary issue in the US vs Microsoft, was Microsoft's monopoly abuse directed at its OEM partners and the terms it was attempting to force upon them, not the IE bundling vs Netscape part of it. IE bundling was a smaller sideshow.

Using anything but Apple Music leads to a less favourable listening experience.

What are you talking about? Spotify works fine.

There's no way to pipe it over Airport without sending ALL of your audio to it, two second delay on all other apps, makes apps that have any sound almost unusable.

Can you control it with Siri yet?

Yes, it's just that those laws are no longer enforced.