Re:CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site a...
by shams93 on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @11:32AM
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Well you go back to 911 itself and the government involvement with Osama Bin Laden going back to the 1980s, go back to the CIA making my childhood incredibly dangerous by dumping incredible amounts of guns and drugs into cities such as Los Angeles. When do the American people get to tell the CIA "you're fired!"
Re:CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site a...
by rvo on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @12:03PM
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Those were massive fups.
That is very different from listing the name of an American on a "kill list" and ordering a drone strike. Judge, jury and executioner.
Re:CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site a...
by davvolun on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @05:02PM
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Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate, but is what Obama did significantly different from Union soldiers under Lincoln's orders during the Civil War? The form of warfare has changed dramatically, but wouldn't that be something of a parallel?
P.S. I don't want to sound like an apologist regarding Obama's actions here. My personal feelings are that he was largely better than Bush, but not without fault.
Re:CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site a...
by rvo on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @12:16AM
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No it's not different. I just said that not many presidents have targeted and killed their own citizens. Lincoln was probably one of them. Perhaps one could argue Obama was in a civil war with Americans of the Muslim faith / extremists.
One could argue it was justified. I would personally feel horrible if it was justified that way. But, hey, it's not my country.
But I agree with the original point, GOP did start this mess on the lie of weapons of mass destruction.