Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searches on domestic flights

Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by justinjlynn on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:23PM (#16571214)

> taking a device for some amount of time and giving it back doesn't qualify as a (4th amendment) search

If it's optional and I can and will refuse, fine. If it's not,and I'm not attempting to cross a border, they can get stuffed.

For domestic travel, they do not need to examine the data - only the physical device needs to be examined to rule out security risk. They can do that non-intrusively with imaging and chemical analysis technology.

The idea that someone could claim that a limited intrusion into the contents of my communications isn't an intrusion at all is absurd.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by justinjlynn on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:34PM (#16571327)

I should clarify: If them looking through my data is not optional and I can't refuse, and I'm not at a border crossing (which is still bullshit imo, but well trodden precedent), they'd better have goddamn signed warrant.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by HedgeSparrow on Monday March 12, 2018 @06:24PM (#16572238)

I've got a question: to what extent can they dish up the "Terms of Service" argument? That is, can they refuse to fly you (domestic) if you refuse to comply because it's a "term of service"?

Is there any niddling contract law in purchasing plane tickets?

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by lovich on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:20PM (#16571773)

Isn't the argument that every international airport constitutes a border, and every mile of beach, and every mile of an actual border? That zone covers the majority of the population of the US constantly.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by oldandtired on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:28PM (#16571830)

Don't you mean any area within 100 miles of the borders? That means some states are completely within this region and are all subject to border searches.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by justinjlynn on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:57PM (#16572054)

I would love to see the government attempt to defend such a stance in front of the supreme court. I have a sneaking suspicion there'd be a major judicial shitfit on that.

Chief Justice would probably be all: "LOL, you did wut? ಠ_ಠ"

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by oldandtired on Monday March 12, 2018 @08:51PM (#16573039)

The problem is that they don't have to (yet). They do it now and get away with it and currently with impunity. If I recall correctly, there is a case in Texas about the matter, but that is the only one I know of at the moment.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by justinjlynn on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:23PM (#16571794)

This is a concern, yes.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by pentagonpapers on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:33PM (#16571319)

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by pentagonpapers on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:34PM (#16571321)

deleting this comment as i will by flying a few weeks

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by justinjlynn on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:47PM (#16571448)

this is exactly what you shouldn't be afraid of.

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