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Re:Fordlandia by Stratoscope on Sunday March 11, 2018 @05:46PM (#16564948)
> Ford hadn’t bothered to learn anything about botany or agronomy before embarking on his Fordlândia experiment. He didn’t trust the kinds of experts that could’ve warned him what he was getting into. In fact, he didn’t trust experts at all — he was a figure-it-out type, skeptical of fancy educations and titles.

> Rubber trees had never been grown in the Amazon in the way that the Ford company was trying to grow them: in dense plantations, with trees planted in tight rows. This growing style might have worked in the Southeast Asian plantations run by the Europeans, but that’s because the bugs there hadn’t evolved to eat rubber. In Brazil, this density ended up creating an environment where the native bugs that fed on rubber trees thrived. Basically, Ford built a giant bug incubator, where close proximity helped pests and blight spread.

> Strangely enough, despite all of the time and money he invested in Fordlândia, [Henry Ford] never actually went to visit it himself. He had orchestrated the whole fiasco from his home, thousands of miles away, in Michigan.

This sounds like a few present-day startups, such as the one I read about here a few years ago. Someone in SF met a fellow developer, and the conversation went something like this:

"You work at a startup? Neat! What does the company do?"

"We're disrupting parking."

"Oh, that's very cool. So you've run a parking lot or worked at one, and that's given you some better ideas on how to run it?"

"No, we haven't done any of that. You have to understand, we're not interested in doing things the old way. We're disrupting parking!"

Re:Fordlandia by please_choose on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:32PM (#16565094)
Garrett Camp never ran a taxi company. Bill Gates never ran a computer business. Etc. All them did know the problem they were solving though.

Previous knowledge of running a parking lot is not causal with startup failure. I think a better way to be critical is the fact that they say they're "disrupting" parking lots, but can't describe the problem they're solving.

Re:Fordlandia by Buge on Sunday March 11, 2018 @08:07PM (#16565413)
>Bill Gates never ran a computer business.

Yes he did.

>At age 17, Gates formed a venture with Allen, called Traf-O-Data, to make traffic counters based on the Intel 8008 processor.[1]

And the idea that someone needs to have run a computer business in the past in order to run a computer business in the future is illogical. It means that no one would ever be able to start running a computer business. The requirement should not be running a business in the past, but having some experience with that type of business in the past. Bill Gates had tons of computer experience.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

Re:Fordlandia by please_choose on Sunday March 11, 2018 @08:39PM (#16565500)
"It means that no one would ever be able to start running a computer business. The requirement should not be running a business in the past, but having some experience with that type of business in the past. Bill Gates had tons of computer experience."

Thanks for helping me make my point.

Also, I didn't say "Bill Gates" and "Microsoft". You're right, Traf-O-Data was a "modest success". It reinforces my point.

Re:Fordlandia by emodendroket on Sunday March 11, 2018 @09:35PM (#16565676)
Right, who could forget the epoch-making work of Traf-O-Data.
Re:Fordlandia by please_choose on Sunday March 11, 2018 @09:54PM (#16565737)
Since when is success dependent on the amount of people in the world that know about it?
Re:Fordlandia by taneq on Sunday March 11, 2018 @08:08PM (#16565420)
They know the "problem" they're solving, they just can't publicly advertise it, because their actual business model is to track drivers' movements and sell the data. Want to know where Bob Smith parked on 14 May 2018? That'll be $32, thankyou.
Re:Fordlandia by MrLeap on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:03PM (#16564995)
I wonder if that's an aspirational way to describe the fact that they steal cars.
Re:Fordlandia by stephengillie on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:26PM (#16565067)
That's a "Pyrrhic" way to disrupt parking. People won't hassle with finding a spot and paying, if they have no car.
Re:Fordlandia by MrLeap on Sunday March 11, 2018 @07:02PM (#16565202)
Nothing pyrrhic about it. They're just relicensing the automotive industry's IP.

Disrupting parking with yet another expression of the gig economy. Democratization of employment. You choose when you go to steal cars, they run the chop shops.

Shorter commutes for most, improved foot traffic and they're making housing more affordable. It's like equifax, facebook or google. We all benefit.