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Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by efini on Sunday March 11, 2018 @05:06PM (#16564779)
Will Trump support the execution of this man and other legal drug dealers like him as well?
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by astura on Sunday March 11, 2018 @05:24PM (#16564867)
This is getting down voted but I don't think that's fair, it's not off topic. Trump said yesterday he's in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers because they are responsible for the death of others. It's a fair question to ask if there should be a distinction between street dealers and these doctors and executives.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by skookumchuck on Sunday March 11, 2018 @09:14PM (#16565607)
> they are responsible for the death of others

Are they? Those others knowingly and voluntarily took those drugs.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 11, 2018 @09:41PM (#16565690)
Addiction is not voluntary.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by scurvy on Sunday March 11, 2018 @10:21PM (#16565834)
Addiction is a possible effect of willingly taking drugs (as the person before you was stating). I'm not saying that people don't have demons and everyone has their own way of coping, but you need to take drugs to be addicted. That first step is taken willfully.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by ajmurmann on Monday March 12, 2018 @12:17AM (#16566177)
Funny enough, if I buy heroin on a street corner, the addiction is voluntary. If I get prescribed opioids and the doctor who I trust ensures me it's the right thing on my situation, I wouldn't call all cases "voluntary addiction".

Edit: I can buy a damn gun when I'm 18, but have to be 21 to drink beer and will never be allowed to buy LSD which is pretty safe and not addictive. WTF?! I blame religion and Puritan nut jobs.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by stordoff on Sunday March 11, 2018 @10:32PM (#16565872)
Addiction is not voluntary, but addiction is a known, likely side-effect of many drugs. That first step is, to a large extent, voluntary (in most cases).
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by thrownaway954 on Monday March 12, 2018 @08:00AM (#16567569)
Sorry... but you're wrong. There are NA, AA, CA, CMA, HA and every other support group with an "A" you can think of that will help you in every step of the way, all you have to do is ask. If you want to get clean, you can and will get clean. Will it be a struggle? Sure it will, it will be the worst thing you will ever go through in your life, but you can and will get clean if you desperately want to. Yes... I went through it, and, yes it sucked, but I'm over 2 years, so, Yes, it can be done.

Bottom line is there are two people who I see who don't want to get clean: 1) the people that will never accept responsibility and want to blame everyone else for their problems. 2) the people who really don't have a desire or want to get clean. At least the second group is being honest with themselves and everyone else.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by skookumchuck on Monday March 12, 2018 @03:04AM (#16566608)
Many addicts have overcome their addiction. As far as I know, none of them succeeded by blaming others. They succeeded by taking responsibility.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by 6t6t6t6 on Monday March 12, 2018 @12:30AM (#16566223)
Trump would be able to become friends with the president of Philippines Rodrigo Duterte!
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by village-idiot on Sunday March 11, 2018 @11:49PM (#16566095)
Since the doctors can bribe him, we know what the answer is.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by onetimemanytime on Sunday March 11, 2018 @05:42PM (#16564929)
Trump is the President, not a King. This doc has been convicted and was sentenced based on the laws in place when he commuted the crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law and all. Also Trump cannot force the US Congress and Senate to pass the laws. Or the courts to judge that this is compatible with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by mikeash on Sunday March 11, 2018 @05:53PM (#16564966)
The question is whether he would support it, not whether he would enact it by decree.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by enraged_camel on Sunday March 11, 2018 @08:59PM (#16565574)
Yes, exactly. And I think we already know that the answer is no, he wouldn't support it. Trump has a very childish perception of the world, and a doctor undoubtedly does not fit his mental image of the drug dealer stereotype.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by UrukParthian on Monday March 12, 2018 @10:59AM (#16568553)
It's almost like politicians manage their perception and image in strategic ways where they lull their enemies into being emotionally caught up with minor character flaws rather than the tactics and orientation of their actions.

The smugness of people against Trump is even more worse than the smugness people had against George W.

They're not idiots. They're sharks who have a very clear aptitude at manipulating people and public perception. It's very bad strategy, and very human, to ascribe to your opponents victories as "luck" and to ascribe their mentality as "dumb".

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by mikeash on Monday March 12, 2018 @11:24AM (#16568732)
I agree with you when it comes to most politicians, but I’m pretty sure Trump is actually dumb. He’s the only person I’ve ever seen contradict himself three times in a single sentence. When he speaks, he almost never displays any indication that there’s any understanding of the subject at hand.

W had a superficial dumbness that was largely cultivated. Beneath that he had at least a basic understanding of the issues.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by UrukParthian on Monday March 12, 2018 @03:17PM (#16570588)
Do you think he cares about you the coherence of his statements when they provoke a strong emotional reaction from a dumb population addicted to emotionally reacting and addicted to signaling alliegence to some vague social grouping?

You're taking his bait superbly by thinking that the truth wins you the game of democracy. To call him "dumb" is to severely underestimate the strategies potential president have used in their rise to power. Or in other words, did calling him an idiot get your side any concessions, any retaken ground?

Instead of taking Trump's bait, I'd highly recommend reading Robert Caro's books on Lyndon B. Johnson. You'll never look at politics the same way again.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by mikeash on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:20PM (#16571169)
Are you under the impression that I’m calling him “dumb” as some sort of political strategy? I’m just describing the facts as I see them. Pointing out that it works for him is not any sort of argument against what I’m saying.

Of course his dumbness has appeal. That’s why he won. That doesn’t mean he’s not an idiot.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by UrukParthian on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:43PM (#16571411)
Your facts is what he says to the public. That's not a "fact", that's taking politics at face value. I told you, such men are sharks. Not merely the men you back on your own political aisle.

I told you to read Robert Caro's series on Lyndon B.Johnson because it opens your eyes to the political process. Do you think Johnson campaigned as a Roosevelt man because he liked Roosevelt? Hell no, he was an opportunist.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by mikeash on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:47PM (#16571978)
I still don’t get what about this is supposed to contradict what I’ve said. And there’s plenty of evidence for Trump’s idiocy from stuff that wasn’t supposed to be public.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by alkonaut on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:20PM (#16565050)
> Trump is the President, not a King

Who will tell him though?

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by astura on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:47PM (#16565145)
Whether or not he supports something is completely irrelevant to if he can force something to happen or if it's Constitutional. Trump has supported unconstitutional positions in the past, it's not out of character.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by sitkack on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:52PM (#16565161)
If I were Trump, I would make a penal colony on one of our pacific atolls and then drone strike him, that would align with existing executive power.

Didn't we declare a "War on Drugs", so that would make drug dealers enemy combatants and subject to tribunals and gitmo.

I should have been Alito.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by inteleng on Sunday March 11, 2018 @08:31PM (#16565474)
This attitude toward justice is exactly why you're not Alito.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by sitkack on Sunday March 11, 2018 @10:09PM (#16565789)
My bad, more of a John Yoo kinda guy.
Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by _emacsomancer_ on Sunday March 11, 2018 @06:36PM (#16565109)
> Trump is the President, not a King.

He'd make a bloody awful King, by any measure. It's bad enough that he's a President.

Re:Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks by ggg9990 on Monday March 12, 2018 @12:34AM (#16566235)
I don’t know about Trump, but I’d be perfectly fine sending him to his execution if I was on his jury.