Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by crtasm on Saturday March 10, 2018 @09:45AM
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Are you claiming that running an app in an environment where it can access the internet directly counts as a vulnerability in Tor?
Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by mirimir on Saturday March 10, 2018 @05:34PM
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Yes, of course it is. Whether it's the Tor Project's fault or the user's fault is a contentious issue.
Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by crtasm on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @02:28PM
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I disagree, Tor isn't a sandbox or firewall for your apps. If they make undesired network traffic then the vulnerability is in the app (and arguably, the environment it's running in).
Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by TomMarius on Saturday March 10, 2018 @04:55AM
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Could you please tell me more about the other Tor vulnerabilities?
Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by mirimir on Saturday March 10, 2018 @05:50PM
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I'm not aware of known vulnerabilities in Tor itself that devs haven't mitigated, out of usability concerns or whatever. Generally, I consider the focus on Windows users, and the reliance on tweaking Firefox for security, to be vulnerabilities. Also the refusal to compartmentalize the Tor process from userland, either in VMs or in separate hardware. I mean, Whonix has been around for years, and it's not featured (or even mentioned, unless you dig into the wiki) on the Tor Project website. And what about Qubes? Or Tor routers? I mean, they go after people for calling them that, citing their copyright.
Re:How Dutch Police Took Over Hansa, a Top Dark Web Market
by crtasm on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @02:46PM
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https://blog.torproject.org/tor-heart-qubes-os
https://blog.torproject.org/tor-heart-whonix
https://blog.torproject.org/tails-36-out
But I fully agree the main site should make the risks of TBB clearer and promote Whonix/similar.
Less kindly, one could argue that Tor devs want to increase the anonymity set, in order to better hide US government users. That was, after all, one reason why Tor's initial Navy funders agreed with open release of the software.
There are similar issues around other Tor vulnerabilities. Such as how easy it is for apps to bypass Tor. Which has allowed the FBI's phone-home malware to pwn users.