I think it's pretty clear people have been up in arms about population monitoring in both the US and China. In fact, if anything, we've been MORE critical of China.

Here is the fundamental problem in a nutshell:

The governments of China and the US simply don't care what we think.

That's the problem we need to solve.

In America, we can do something about it through many avenues. In China, you get 'disappeared' for trying to do something about it. A bit of a difference.

So you're saying it's impossible to abuse USA terrorist safeguards to make people 'disappear' ( in terms of infinite prison time or destroying their social status)? I think the term freedom in debating democratic countries vs. totalitatian countries is a joke, there is always someone with more power than you and will use it against you if he/she can profit from it.

Perhaps not, but if abuse like that happens there are avenues to fight it. For example, see all the BLM protests regarding police brutality. In China, there is not even a need of pretense. If you criticize the government, you are gone. The BLM equivalent in China, the student uprising, was literally squashed with tanks. So, to conflate our two systems and say the difference in freedom is non-existent is the joke.

House of cards is a pretty accurate depiction of U.S. politics,there are many avenues for one to be “disappeared” in America too. It’s not so much different

"Down with N! Down with Winnie the pooh. "

Made it past the censors. I guess there are _some_ differences.

If you accused the Chinese government of being oppressive in an online forum in China, would there be a problem?

Something like House of Cards would never get produced in China.

Veep is much closer to the truth though.