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Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by murph-almighty on Thursday March 08, 2018 @10:15AM (#16544788)
Why so? Here Grandma owns the house, but in the other situation she doesn't own the apartment, the landlord does.
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by amorphid on Thursday March 08, 2018 @10:30AM (#16544892)
Because the landlord knew exactly what they were doing when they rented the apartment to Grandma. If the landlord didn't want to enter into a contract the involving rent control, they shouldn't have been in the business of renting NYC apartments.
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by true_religion on Thursday March 08, 2018 @10:57AM (#16545091)
Contract law usually doesn't allow for lifetime contracts because people can't consider such a long timespan logically. Rent control is the same thing. It forces a contract with on going payments and services with no end date. Is there any escape clause?
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by eric_h on Thursday March 08, 2018 @12:21PM (#16545883)
As far as I'm aware, people occupying rent controlled apartments (in NYC) can opt to be bought out by their landlord. I've heard a number of stories of people using that windfall (generally buyouts are on the order of $10^4-10^5) to improve their general living situation, and I've also heard stories (including someone I knew personally) of people squandering that windfall and ending up living out of their car.
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by amorphid on Thursday March 08, 2018 @01:16PM (#16546321)
IANAL...

I believe the landlord is bound by the language of the law, not the contract. If the law enabling grandma's rent control were fully repealed, there'd be no rent control-related reason the landlord couldn't raise Grandma's rent to market rent. Basically, Grandma AND the landlord both needed to know what they were getting in to.

Grandma: "I want this apartment."

Landlord: "OK, it's $250/month with rent control. But just so you know, if they ever repeal that law, and market rate is more than the $250/month you're paying, I'm raising you rent."

Grandma: "Understood. If I were the landlord, I'd raise the rent on the grandma renting my apartment, too."

Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by srtjstjsj on Thursday March 08, 2018 @12:53PM (#16546138)
Isn't a sale a lifetime contract?
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by pc86 on Thursday March 08, 2018 @12:58PM (#16546184)
Apartment rental is explicitly not a sale. We should probably keep talking about the same thing and not keep moving the goalposts to suit our argument.
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by mjcl on Thursday March 08, 2018 @12:22PM (#16545890)
Isn't an NDA a lifetime contract?
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by pc86 on Thursday March 08, 2018 @12:59PM (#16546188)
I have never seen (and certainly have never signed) an NDA that covers an indefinite period of time.
Re:What Airbnb Did to New York City by lr4444lr on Thursday March 08, 2018 @01:48PM (#16546591)
Not true: blanket legislation in NY brought all buildings constructed pre 1947 into rent control and rent-stabilization to pre-1974 buildings:

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/tenants_rights.pdf