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Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by howitworks on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:36PM (#16530872)
If you read this and think "luck is all that matters, how can I be successful?" the solution is proactively creating optionality.

Basically giving yourself the chance the get lucky.

Things like: putting your work online, meeting new people, living in a big city, not buying a house, etc.

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by allcentury on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:43PM (#16530932)
If I can summarize,

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by hwayne on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:59PM (#16531078)
You miss NaN of the shots you don't take
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by juicy-fruit on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:08PM (#16531159)
Working hard certainly doesn't guarantee success, however it defiantly makes you luckier and exposes you to more opportunity. I like Kevin Systrom summed it up (not word for word):

Everyone gets lucky at least once a week. You might find a dollar on the ground, you might meet someone, be somewhere, whatever. What sets you up for success is:

1. Are you alert enough to know you're getting lucky?

2. Are you talented enough to run with it once you get lucky?

3. Are you resilient enough to stick with it once it gets hard?

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by joncrane on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:43PM (#16530927)
>not buying a house

How does this help with luck, exactly?

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by gnicholas on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:02PM (#16531115)
Not buying a house may decrease mobility for some, especially single people. But folks who have spouses and/or kids tend to be more anchored to the community regardless of whether they rent. They have jobs and schools and friends that are hard to move away from.

Also, buying a house can be an opportunity itself. Although the new tax law makes it somewhat less tax-favored as an investment, it still offers the ability to escape capital gains taxation on up to $500k (married) of gains. There are other federal and state benefits that can make the overall purchase decision attractive.

So for some folks, yes a house can be an anchor. For other folks, they're already pretty much anchored, and the tax benefits can outweigh the downsides of incremental anchoring. Also, you can't get evicted...

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by joncrane on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:30PM (#16531321)
> buying a house can be an opportunity itself. Although the new tax law makes it somewhat less tax-favored as an investment, it still offers the ability to escape capital gains taxation

This is what I was thinking. There's nothing stopping a person from moving and keeping the house and renting it out, often at a profit over mortgate+fees+repairs+etc.

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by soulnothing on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:55PM (#16531044)
I bought a house and moved out several months after purchasing it for health reasons. The house was an anchor, that I also feel held me back.

I had to take a number of jobs with higher pay, that weren't beneficial to my career. Almost every decision was can I pay for this house as well.

Outside of my special use case. It's an anchor point in your life. I like this job but it's further away from my house. I like this job but it's in another city. Etc.

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by myth_drannon on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:01PM (#16531108)
In another universe you bought a house in an area that had a housing bubble and the price appreciated by 100% in a couple of years. You sold your house and retired in Mexico working on fun side projects.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by alexpetralia on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:41PM (#16531422)
You lose optionality when you commit your capital to an illiquid investment. That is, you no longer have the option to spend money on things which may have a higher ROI. Any type of commitment loses optionality.

Update: this is a great podcast episode on using optionality to your advantage (http://investorfieldguide.com/wolfe/)

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by nvusuvu on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:48PM (#16530979)
Being able to seize opportunities (that require relocation) when the chance comes, perhaps? A house can become a boat anchor in those instances.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by itsnotlupus on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:45PM (#16530954)
Probably mobility, hence increased ability to seize opportunities as they present.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by godelski on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @04:05PM (#16532116)
There's a saying I like: "The harder I work, the luckier I get."

If we're playing a statistics game, the best way to pull ahead is to create the most opportunities you can have to be lucky. By working hard, you are providing yourself with more opportunities to be lucky. You can still fail and get unlucky, but that's an unfortunate part of life. Though it is pretty unlikely that you'll flip 50 tails in a row.

Disclaimer: I don't suggest using this strategy at the slots, your odds are just not good enough.

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by myth_drannon on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:59PM (#16531086)
There a famous song from an old Soviet movie. The song called "If you don't have an aunt"

"If you have no home It won't be set on fire And your wife won't leave you for another If you don't, if you don't If you don't have any wife Don't have any wife....."

Original with English subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50CV0C4ox-k

Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by jtraffic on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @07:26AM (#16535900)
A bit of self-promotion. I wrote an essay about this. Perhaps it's worth reading for those interested in this thread: https://hackernoon.com/a-guide-for-getting-lucky-in-startups...
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by evanlivingston on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:49PM (#16530987)
How can I be successful if I have no talent?
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by lawn on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:00PM (#16531091)
Talent is overrated. The ability to work hard is much more valuable.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by Tiksi on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @03:42PM (#16531934)
The ability to work hard is itself a talent, but I'd agree that it's more valuable than most.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by 987412365 on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:04PM (#16531128)
You are good at what you do frequently. If what you do frequently has low RoI in terms for satisfying your desires, you should stop doing it and do something else.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by pvaldes on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @01:52PM (#16531009)
Everybody is good doing something.
Re:Talent vs. Luck: the role of randomness in success and fa... by jay-anderson on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @02:01PM (#16531109)
I'd rather put it as everybody has the opportunity to develop their talents and skills.