Re:The Investor Class Hates Pensions
by hkmurakami on Monday March 05, 2018 @06:14PM
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Are there plans that actually only offer actively managed funds? Even the bare bones bottom tier Fidelity plan I had years ago from a notoriously tight pursed startup gave me a few index tracking funds.
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Have a look at the total fees for your account/index funds. My experience is that they are not always competitive with the lowest fees in the free financial markets. (3 basis points for Schwab S&P 500 index).
If your company is small or your benefits person clueless, you may have worse funds available to you than in the taxable brokerage world.
I think there are better things to worry about than a couple basis points. If I'm charged 1% for a basic index fund, sure that's a problem. But given the minute fees for most, the inefficiencies from trading strategies could dwarf the explicit fees - if you really care about every penny, you need to look at the actual tracking error. You may be surprised to find it's substantially larger than the fees.[1]
My attitude in practice is that if I'm getting an employer match, then why complain about fees? It's their problem to minimize them - I'm still doing better than I would on my own. The efficiency is their problem, and because they have an incentive to minimize their costs, there shouldn't be a systemic problem.
[1] Average ETF tracking error is said to be as high as 50 basis points: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/business/mutfund/exchange-...
Yes, it's happily becoming less common, but it was and is common for all options in a 401k plan to have high fees, and be set up to benefit the company
http://time.com/money/3959942/401k-bad-choices/
http://www.pionline.com/article/20170927/ONLINE/170929858/ge...