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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by fjsolwmv on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:47AM (#16502394)
That argument is weak. It's equivalent to saying I should kill some people because my adversaries kill people. That's nonsense because the situation isn't symmetrical. It's not the adversaries who are getting killed.
Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by dalbasal on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:55AM (#16502505)
I'm not sure I'm following, at least one of us is misunderstanding the other.

I'm not making a normative statement. I'm saying that [1] (for example), Russia will not deny itself a tool that China pocesses and [2] when it comes to dragnets, I have very little confidence in mechanisms to separate citizens from foreigners. Even if I'm wrong and it is possible to regulate dragnets in this way, you are then spied on by everyone but your own government (which is better than nothing, but not exactly inspiring).

Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by schoen on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:55PM (#16503968)
People making normative statements managed to get governments to agree to ban landmines, torture, and chemical and biological weapons. It seems like there's a whole lot of potential upside in also being willing to entertain normative statements about military tactics.