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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by ancorevard on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:44AM (#16502352)
This may not be illegal at all. Like all other countries, we have foreigners living in Norway. A small subset of these are bad actors. Most notable we have a history of Russian agents and ISIS members in the country. Intercepting all communications filtering for these non-Norwegian citizens/terrorists is not illegal.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by sleepyhead on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:11AM (#16502701)
According to this well-known lawyer it is not only illegal but in breach of the constitution and the European Convention on Human Rights: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev...
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by e12e on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:33AM (#16502961)
You forgot mossad assassins.

That doesn't mean this is legal; much like in other countries military intelligence have no jurisdiction over citizens - there are separate domestic agencies for that (the FBI/CIA, MI5/MI6 distinction).

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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by drharby on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:46AM (#16503129)
MI may have jurisdiction - dictatorships come to mind.

Pedantic i know, but what can?

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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by e12e on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:07PM (#16504108)
Well, the whole reason this is an issue in Norway is because we're a few people that like to keep our country something other than a dictatorship...
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by johnhenry on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:07AM (#16502645)
Good point. While I'm grateful for the information, and I don't think that they meant any harm, but the OP does us a disservice by dropping the word "Potential" from the title.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by mtgx on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:09PM (#16503429)
How do you know they only "filter for non-Norwegians"? According to some people in this thread, the intelligence agencies should operate in complete secrecy.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by oh_sigh on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:05PM (#16504087)
I don't think OP made that claim - merely that if that is how they were operating with the dragnet, it would not be illegal.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by willstrafach on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:05PM (#16504082)
This article is about aiming ground based satellite dishes at foreign satellites and decoding the signals they see.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by fjsolwmv on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:45AM (#16502375)
That's one controversial interpretation that claims collecting citizen data doesn't count if you don't really mean it.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by ancorevard on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:52AM (#16502465)
They are legally obligated to monitor all communications from and to a foreign country originated by a foreigner in Norway. The dragnet approach, monitoring all in order to filter down, seems reasonable as long as they only store the filtered data and not full stream.
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by testvox on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:12AM (#16502706)
Why do you think they only store the filtered data?
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Re:Norway Used NSA Technology for Potentially Illegal Spying by e12e on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:35AM (#16502990)
They don't, and they've been lobbying for changing the law. They've said so on record (that they grab and store everything, and deletion is based on intelligence value, not following laws governing surveillance and storage of personal (citizen) data).
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