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Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by elihu on Thursday March 01, 2018 @06:42PM (#16497458)
> In fact, the planet, known as WASP-39b, has three times as much water as Saturn does.

Is that a lot?

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by BinaryIdiot on Thursday March 01, 2018 @06:47PM (#16497484)
That's exactly what I was wondering! It's such an odd choice to compare it to as I'm having trouble finding an exact number. This article mentions that it's a small amount of ice but not exactly helpful for a scale: https://www.universetoday.com/15374/is-there-water-on-saturn...
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by ASalazarMX on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:25PM (#16497709)
So there's little water on Saturn! but wait, since Saturn is about 300 times the size of earth, and Earth's mass is just 1/4000th water, I'm still utterly confused as how much it is compared to us.

Odd choice, indeed.

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:12PM (#16498390)
Saturn is big! And it looks blue!

Must be a lot!

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by dclowd9901 on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:36PM (#16498506)
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by pluma on Friday March 02, 2018 @05:05AM (#16500317)
What blows my mind is that Saturn in that image looks almost exactly like it does in the intro to Star Trek The Next Generation, which I always chalked up as bad CGI.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by dclowd9901 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @02:00PM (#16595101)
Try seeing it through a powerful eyepiece telescope. It’s absolutely one of the most astonishing experiences I’ve ever had.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by rbanffy on Friday March 02, 2018 @05:53AM (#16500509)
Consider this image is from Voyager. Cassini captured much higher resolution ones.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by pluma on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @04:42AM (#16527863)
Higher res maybe, but it still looks amazingly fake:

https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/7549/?category=amateur...

I guess what's messing with me is that it just looks so smooth, which life-long exposure to CGI has taught me to mean that it's fake.

This reminds me of what Elon Musk said about his Tesla in space: you can tell it's real because it looks so fake.

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:05PM (#16498628)
Oops, I was thinking of Uranus! What hope!
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by lostmsu on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:19PM (#16498712)
Maybe Neptune? Would make more sense.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday March 01, 2018 @11:58PM (#16499158)
Yes, that’s the one! I don’t know, Outer Planets all look the same to me.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by lostmsu on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:23AM (#16502829)
Oh, c'mon, they are named after specific Gods after all.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by BinaryIdiot on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:55PM (#16498867)
Probably thinking Earth
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by sidcool on Thursday March 01, 2018 @11:43PM (#16499096)
Silly, but this always cracks me up.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by aaron_m04 on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:29PM (#16498479)
Hard to say, without being converted into units of jumbo jets or football fields.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by garmaine on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:24PM (#16498733)
I think the relevant metric here is Olympic swimming pools.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by pluma on Friday March 02, 2018 @05:03AM (#16500309)
But how big is it in terms of Belgium?
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by simulate on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:59PM (#16497939)
There are three regions in Saturn's troposphere and the lowest region, about 130 kilometers (80 miles) down, is largely clouds made of water and ice. https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Cassini-Huy...
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by semaphoreP on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:16PM (#16498403)
It's hard to measure absolute water abundances (it requires a lot of assumptions and extrapolating). This is a relative comparison of atmospheric water. We don't have relative water abundances for a lot of planets, so it's on the higher end, but we don't really know (maybe some other planets' water are hidden behind clouds).
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by ianai on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:24PM (#16498731)
That makes me think it’s a pretty substantive amount of water. If we’re getting 3x the spike we see for a planet in our own solar system in a planet lys away then actual content should be much more (due to signal/noise? Just guessing though)
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by semaphoreP on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:25AM (#16499285)
It's not the absolute value of the signal. What they're measuring the amount of water compared to hydrogen.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by tintor on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:51PM (#16497879)
Hm, Saturn is a gas giant with average density less than water.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by rangibaby on Thursday March 01, 2018 @10:15PM (#16498690)
I distinctly remember learning that Saturn would float in a bathtub at gradeschool!
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by thaumasiotes on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:14AM (#16499498)
That sounds... less than accurate. Will a sponge float in water? It's less dense...

I'm trying to imagine how the result of a close encounter between Saturn and a Saturn-sized bathtub full of water could be anything other than a single merged sphere with a lot of water content.

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by saagarjha on Friday March 02, 2018 @04:23AM (#16500161)
A sponge is less dense because it’s full of air holes. But yes, any such encounter would likely tear both “masses” apart and form a new planet.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by thaumasiotes on Friday March 02, 2018 @04:48AM (#16500244)
Right, and Saturn is less dense than water because it is mostly composed of air. It's like a sponge with the spongy lattice removed. It's not a solid. (At least, the vast majority of it by volume is not a solid.) That's why it's called a "gas giant".
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by tnli on Friday March 02, 2018 @02:09AM (#16499707)
I was going to say that it would be a star, but apparently (making an assumption about the mass of the saturn-sized bathtub full of water here) it would still be orders of magnitude from ignition.

An Olympic swimming pool scaled for a Saturn-sized swimmer on the other hand... Ignition!

Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by saagarjha on Friday March 02, 2018 @04:24AM (#16500167)
You’d need on the order of hundred times the mass of Saturn to create a red dwarf, so the swimming pool might actually be enough to kick it into being a Sun-sized or even larger star.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by bdamm on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:29AM (#16499559)
Sounds like the kind of ridiculous lesson one files away when they realize their critical thinking skills have surpassed those of the teacher.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by _emacsomancer_ on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:28PM (#16497726)
Well, it's a lot more than on Mercury.
Re:NASA finds a large amount of water in an exoplanet's atmo... by m3kw9 on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:11PM (#16498383)
It’s relative, a lot compare to earth but otherwise, it doesn’t mean much to ask that