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Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by walterbell on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @11:38AM (#16484172)
Some reasons to use an older iPad with iOS10:

- years of data trapped in functional 32-bit apps

- iOS11 control center no longer turns off WiFi (security risk)

- iOS11 airplane mode no longer turns off WiFi

- iPad Pro 2 echo cancellation doesn't work (4 speakers, too close to microphones), works in iPad Pro 1

- iOS11 split screen needs more gestures to add frequently-used app, iOS10 = single swipe from right

- iOS11 connection to WiFi captive portal disables external keyboard (!)

Let's not get started on the Macbook Pro 2015.

Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by gurkendoktor on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:37AM (#16492305)
Two more:

- I trigger drag & drop all the time while scrolling in Safari. I'm sure some people use this feature a lot, but I wish I could turn it off.

- You can only have one column of widgets on the "0th homescreen" instead of two. Now half the screen is empty, and I have to scroll. Argh.

Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by jsl1212 on Thursday March 01, 2018 @01:11PM (#16494514)
I have an iPhone 6 and iOS11 has been nothing but a nightmare since I upgraded. The built in apps (alarm, messages etc.) are rife with bugs and take at least double the amount of time to do the things they used to do with no trouble at all.
Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by zimpenfish on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:04PM (#16484502)
> - iOS11 airplane mode no longer turns off WiFi

Just tested this and it 100% turns off WiFi on 11.3b3.

Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by dagw on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:07PM (#16484532)
By default, but you can easily accidentally change that behavior:

https://www.macobserver.com/tips/quick-tip/airplane-mode-ios...

Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by walterbell on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:21PM (#16484677)
Thanks, that explains what is happening.
Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by amedvednikov on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:12PM (#16484577)
I think you mean mbpro 2016 (the first model with the touchbar).
Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by walterbell on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:22PM (#16484686)
Right, mbpro 2015 being the last "good" one.
Re:Old Smartphones Are a Problem for Apple and Samsung by lobf on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @08:42PM (#16489012)
I was gonna say, I got the 2015 MBP and this is a great machine. So many ports!