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Re:Quinn Norton: The New York Times Fired My Doppelgänger by acdha on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @10:10AM (#16483452)
You don't see any room between a major religion with a huge range of followers and an ideology with a single, toxic goal? I'm an atheist and I wouldn't describe christianity as child abuse — maybe some of the most virulent forms, etc. but describing the entire spectrum that way is simply dishonest.
Re:Quinn Norton: The New York Times Fired My Doppelgänger by liberte82 on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:40PM (#16484878)
It's all a spectrum. One man's child abuse is another man's passing on values to their children.
Re:Quinn Norton: The New York Times Fired My Doppelgänger by lostmsu on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:27AM (#16502874)
Its not about passing values. Its about how do you pass values. In all the honesty, can you claim they are not simply forced in at least 50% of cases? I would highly doubt that.
Re:Quinn Norton: The New York Times Fired My Doppelgänger by liberte82 on Friday March 02, 2018 @09:06PM (#16507422)
I mean, I don’t think it’s something you can draw a firm line on. Some cases are obvious and egregious, like children being raised in cults. But every way of raising your child is ‘your way’ of passing on your values, and you could find at least someone who considers it abusive.
Re:Quinn Norton: The New York Times Fired My Doppelgänger by IntronExon on Friday March 02, 2018 @09:11PM (#16507440)
Zombie Jesus and pillars of fire and smoke both sound like bad sci-fi. Angels and demons and falling stars, lakes of fire, beasts rising from a bloody ocean, Jainist cosmology, Mormon theology, spirit journeys, being smothered by ghosts in your dreams... all old and established religions.

The veneer of credibility is a pure function of time. They all started toxic and singular, and only time and being forced to adapt to others changes them. So no, the beliefs are all batshit, but eventually the behavior of the group deviates from the ideal enough to concede to reality. The ones which don’t undergo that transformation don’t survive.