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Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by martinald on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:21AM (#16474087)
What, like an incredibly space inefficient train or bus? It will also cause insane traffic congestion if people cared less about the congestion.

At a certain level of congestion people think it will take too long and avoid the journey. All this will do is move the threshold even higher. Most metro areas need to look at transit as the solution. Self driving vehicles may play a role in feeder routes but the idea suddenly congestion will be solved because of self driving vehicles is crazy; and IMO will actually be the opposite.

Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by RandallBrown on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:24AM (#16474114)
That's kinda like saying your yard is a space inefficient park.

There are good reasons people don't want to be crammed on a bus or train with other people all of the time.

Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by martinald on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:25AM (#16474138)
Buy first class train tickets then? On DB you can even get a private office on ICE trains. They're really expensive; because that amount of space is by its nature expensive.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by walshemj on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:55AM (#16474513)
if I could afford that I wouldn't need to work - get real mate
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by drb91 on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:24AM (#16474126)
Remote work could solve congestion.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by mikepurvis on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:35AM (#16474235)
But remote work has been an option for decades, and rush hour is still a thing.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by Retric on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:05AM (#16474653)
The US has largely abandoned new road construction which IMO is a large part of the issue. There is an old saying you can't build your way out of congestion, but it really does work in many areas. Just look at a small town building a bypass.

The problem is when congestion is so bad it's suppressing trips there is a middle ground when improvements are less obvious. That and city's need to be designated to absorb highway traffic or highways just end up as expensive parking lots.

Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by drb91 on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:10AM (#16474728)
An option, sure, but not for the labor side of things, and why should a corp care about congestion?
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by erikpukinskis on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @10:11AM (#16483463)
Remote work requires eye contact, which doesn’t exist yet. It will happen rapidly once we have VR with eye tracking.

The other thing missing from remote work tools is collocated workspaces (can’t fit that on your monitor). Existing VR tech solves that problem though.

Instead of working on Google Docs in your office, you’ll work IN Google Docs in VR, and your coworkers will be there nearby, and you’ll be able to talk face to face without leaving your workspace.

Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by drb91 on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @02:35PM (#16486013)
Certainly not all remote work requires eye contact, including the vast majority of white collar jobs--especially technical jobs. This argument is silly and never comes with anything but anecdotal evidence and arbitrary standards. In reality, managers want people in the room with them because it's easier on them.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by erikpukinskis on Thursday March 01, 2018 @02:13AM (#16490246)
Well, how do you explain "it's easier" then? I gave my explanation of why I think it's easier. Do you have another theory?
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by drdeadringer on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:46AM (#16480967)
There are jobs you cannot do remotely, or at the very least requires a person on site for your remote commands to work.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by lifeformed on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @06:36PM (#16479214)
But cars get you to exactly where you need to go, and leave whenever you want to leave.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by adamnemecek on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:22AM (#16474101)
Train or bus are pretty annoying. Like quite a few times, the bus is packed.
Re:California to allow testing of self-driving cars without ... by martinald on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:25AM (#16474129)
Yes but you've probably got 100 people on the bus if it's packed in a few square metres of road space. If you had a self driving vehicle that was comfortable, you'd need probably 100s of square m of road space to take all the people. Which means even more immense congestion.