Why can’t women get pregnant without the menstrual cycle? (2016)

Re:Why can’t women get pregnant without the menstrual cycle?... by tomp on Monday February 26, 2018 @06:47AM (#16464640)

> For men to be considered "real men", telling a compelling story with confidence is more important than bing correct - the scientifically appropriate level of self-doubt and "well this is what we know, here are my sources" is not "manly".

Well, I guess I'm not a real man then. Thanks for your mansplanation!

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Re:Why can’t women get pregnant without the menstrual cycle?... by vanderZwan on Monday February 26, 2018 @07:13AM (#16464741)

Before continuing the conversation, can I ask you to take a moment to step back and ask yourself with honesty whether you think that these statements imply that I am saying that you are not a good person because you also behave this way.

Because if so, there is a - perfectly reasonable - misunderstanding of my intent here. Read what I wrote again, more closely: all it is describing is a societal norm that I would like to get rid of. If you think you don't act that way, great!

This is not an accusation, it would be a perfectly understandable response (I get defensive all the time when my GF points things out to me).

At no point am I talking about you, nor saying that you are "not a real man". At no point am I saying that you are a bad person if you do or do not act this way. I'm sorry that you feel defensive, but there really is no need to. I'm not accusing you, nor would I blame you or any man for having toxic masculine behaviours. It's not your fault to be raised in a society with those norms, after all.

If you have the time, please watch Why Are You So Angry? by Innuendo Studios[0]. It also goes into how societal norms about good and evil train us to think things are about us and personal attacks when they aren't (the video highlights gamergate, but the process is not gender specific).

But the short version is: people tend to get very defensive about topics like sustainability, feminism, racism, animal rights, etcetera, because it makes them question whether they are good people or not. But ultimately, that is a self-centered response. Whether or not one's actions make them a good person is ultimately less important than whether or not what they do is the right thing to do.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8XgGhXkTQ&list=PLJA_jUddXv...

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Re:Why can’t women get pregnant without the menstrual cycle?... by rimliu on Monday February 26, 2018 @07:26AM (#16464795)

Right thing as decided by whom? E. g. I think that to eat meat is a right thing for himans to do. Not imagining things and forcing your imagined world on others is also the right thing to do.

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Re:Why can’t women get pregnant without the menstrual cycle?... by vanderZwan on Monday February 26, 2018 @07:52AM (#16464901)

Ironically, the right thing as decided by the meat eaters who feel uncomfortable around vegetarians. Watch the video to see the explanation, but the whole point is that vegetarians who don't enforce their views on others still have to deal with people getting defensive around them.

I had a similar experience when I refused to drink alcohol as a student: I don't mind others enjoying it, I just happen to not like it. Yet a lot of my friends in college felt like I was judging them.

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