Re:Dropbox saved almost $75M over two years by moving out of...
by dalbasal on Sunday February 25, 2018 @04:20AM
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Ultimately, technical limitations (is, problem would exist regardless of people) are not always (or usually) a limiting factor for companies working. Human limitations like having the wrong group in charge are the limiting factor. Ways around that are good, potentially.
Re:Dropbox saved almost $75M over two years by moving out of...
by kev009 on Sunday February 25, 2018 @04:46AM
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Trying to solve it with technology is naive. If the governance of a company can't regularly align and improve itself, no technology will solve that problem.
Re:Dropbox saved almost $75M over two years by moving out of...
by kev009 on Sunday February 25, 2018 @04:31AM
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Well said but I disagree that AWS is some magical solution it's in your context just a scapegoat to catalyze change in general or a mulligan with brownfield and greenfield. It'd be far more effective to simply hire competent people to fix the organization, but that requires competent people somewhere in the governance of an organization (i.e. a board or major stakeholders).
Re:Dropbox saved almost $75M over two years by moving out of...
by hinkley on Sunday February 25, 2018 @12:50PM
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It’s at best a passive aggressive solution to the problem. The assertive solution is to tell the manager of the group that if they don’t find some humility quick then they’ll be finding a new job.
It seems like this problem happens in organizations that equate headcount with power. Which I guess makes some sort of sense but doesn’t feel right. Plenty of companies do not have the majority of their employees working on producing the goods they sell. Especially if they’ve started automating.
But as I said above, this is an ‘asleep at the wheel’ situation. It seems like it’s often not the biggest problem these companies have with their vision.
And, it sometimes happens that actual tech companies start outsourcing their tech, which is a whole other troubling pattern.
Re:Dropbox saved almost $75M over two years by moving out of...
by heisenbit on Sunday February 25, 2018 @07:29AM
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I often wonder about the value of outsourcing and a lot of the deals I see are related to generational change whether it is management, technological stack or lopsided age structure. Not all are acknowledging the realities injecting conflicting targets into the execution.
In every one of those cases the group in charge has been the wrong group and it really makes you wonder who has been asleep at the wheel so long that this has occurred.
Maybe outsourcing to AWS for a couple of years is a good way to reboot the organization. Cheaper than slowly going out of business. When the fad dies down you start hiring people back who are a little more humble and cheaper than AWS.