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Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by dblock on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:14PM (#16455752)
I was a beneficiary of an H1B in 99 from Switzerland (easily confused with Sweden that Trump wants qualified candidates from). After months of waiting I moved to the US, and got a green card five years later.

I’m grateful. I made my life here. But I think it’s not worth it, the America we all romanticized is long gone.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by adamnemecek on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:46PM (#16456193)
I think that that America actually never existed, it was all just propaganda.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by chrisper on Sunday February 25, 2018 @03:38AM (#16457890)
I think that America existed for a short time after WW2 and maybe the time before 9/11.

That's when all that Suburban sprawl started and we all think of maybe when we think of "great USA." Nevertheless, I do think that propaganda (mainly Hollywood) is adding to that positive image.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by jackweirdy on Sunday February 25, 2018 @09:59AM (#16459231)
Sounds like it started and ended with Bretton Woods
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by muzani on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:37PM (#16457164)
I lived with my parents in the US over 2 decades ago. It was definitely a nice place back then. It's a place of extremes, with a lot of extreme bad and good.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by DrJokepu on Saturday February 24, 2018 @08:03PM (#16456497)
Mr. Trump would like more immigrants from Norway, not Sweden (easily confused with Norway).
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by thedarkproject on Sunday February 25, 2018 @09:28AM (#16459084)
Why would someone from Switzerland - a country that seems superior to the US in every relevant aspect for quality of life - move to the US?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by tanilama on Saturday February 24, 2018 @07:23PM (#16456365)
I completely feels the same. I am grateful for the education and opportunity that is offered, but I am losing purpose as time goes.

The America that I was dreaming of, might never exist in the first place. However, it is painful, now even a little bit enthralling to see it disintegrate at this speed.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by refurb on Sunday February 25, 2018 @12:20AM (#16457275)
We all romanticized?

If you asked Trump supporters, he turning the US back to what many people romanticized.

And if you don't like the direction of the country, vote with your feet.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by newfoundglory on Sunday February 25, 2018 @02:46AM (#16457733)
A lot of people are doing that, they’re calling it “marching”
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Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by Broken_Hippo on Saturday February 24, 2018 @07:15PM (#16456331)
You obviously don't know much about immigration laws, either in the US or other places. Otherwise, you'd know that some countries allow folks to move there as long as they have a bit of income or a bit of money in the bank. Some countries don't have such confusing regulations about getting permanent residency nor citizenship and have them clearly laid out. You'd know a lot of countries have family immigration policies for close families, much like the US yet easier to navigate. Heck, Norway's civics exam was a reasonable thing to pass after a 6 week course (50 hours of classroom time), unlike the american exam. Sure, it is required for permanent residency, but that doesn't seem like an unfair requirement either.

You are also unaware of how the refugee program works. Otherwise you'd know some of the things that qualifies folks to be a refugee. You'd know that folks can't really choose their country. Most refugees I've met would have rather stayed in their home country, by the way, if it weren't for things like war and starvation. Some are saddened that they will never be able to go back home because they think they'll get killed. Tends to happen after getting tortured by the cops and taken by ISIS - or your family getting this done to them.

I'd put links up for you, but that is seriously too much work for this comment.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by dingo_bat on Sunday February 25, 2018 @05:12AM (#16458193)
That's a lazy comment! You wrote so many words but didn't answer the basic query.

How can an unskilled person get permanent residency in Switzerland if the only connection they have to the country is:

- they have family in Switzerland

- they are a refugee

? It's ok if you don't know. But bullshitting is not ok.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by Broken_Hippo on Sunday February 25, 2018 @05:28AM (#16458238)
Just because one can't go to that particular country doesn't mean anything, including that the US has the most liberal laws on the planet, which is what this comment focused on.

You might not be able to go to Switzerland, but other countries aren't so bent out of shape about it so long as you have some income. And if I remember correctly, if you are rich enough, you can go. Even technically unskilled.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by muninn_ on Saturday February 24, 2018 @09:43PM (#16456837)
Incredibly poor rebuttal.

1. Saying “you’re unaware and I’m too lazy to post links” means you don’t know enough (and no I don’t care if you’ve immigrated before) to discuss the point.

2. Yes some countries allow people who secure jobs to work in those countries - that doesn’t mean they allow them to become citizens.

3. All countries have confusing immigration systems and tests - boohoo. I have friends from Somalia who live in the United States right now as permanent residents who have not taken any exam. Even so - not a big deal.

4. I didn’t say much about refugees, so for you to suggest that I’m not knowledgeable about the process is a naive assumption you’ve made to argue some silly point.

5. Yes most folks can’t choose their country. Too bad. If every country on the planet opens its borders than fine, if not we are just arguing over arbitrary numbers. Can I without restriction move to Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, or New Zealand? No? Ok then discussion over. I don’t want to hear one single criticism about liberal US immigration policies while the rest of the world is ass-backwards.

6. Yes it’s sad and tragic that some people are born in war-torn countries or countries that become involved in war. Life goes on for the rest of us. I didn’t choose to be not born a billionaire or not born in glorious Germany. You get the hand your dealt and make the best of it. And if the West keeps letting all the best people from these war-torn countries in, there won’t be any good people left to seek justice. It’s amazing the backflips that people will do to justify their racist, imperialist policies while pretending the U.S. is yet again some big bad boogeyman. It makes me sick.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by newfoundglory on Sunday February 25, 2018 @02:49AM (#16457743)
You didn’t have to say much about refugees, even a few words can be completely wrong.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by sheepmullet on Sunday February 25, 2018 @05:40AM (#16458281)
> Otherwise, you'd know that some countries allow folks to move there as long as they have a bit of income or a bit of money in the bank.

Which first world countries and what is a bit of money in the bank?

Many countries allow you to migrate if you invest $500k+ in the country.

Is that what you meant?

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by mabcat on Sunday February 25, 2018 @08:01AM (#16458706)
A relative of mine just got PR in Slovakia and the "money in the bank" requirement is 2400 EUR. While there's a bit more to it and he'll have to meet some visa conditions over the next 5 years if he wants to stay on, the detail was handled swiftly and quite cheaply by a visa agent. Nothing like the US or AU PR experience.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by sheepmullet on Sunday February 25, 2018 @09:43AM (#16459152)
> A relative of mine just got PR in Slovakia and the "money in the bank" requirement is 2400 EUR

Is that the only requirement?

I just checked and Slovakia has a tiny immigrant population - <2% of total population. Compared to ~28% AU and ~14% US.

What am I missing? Have they drastically changed policies in the last 2-3 years?

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by abecedarius on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:28PM (#16456117)
iirc, to move to Switzerland basically all you need is a net worth high enough to convince them you won't ever become a public burden. (Also iirc, this is likely to change soon.) Becoming a citizen otoh takes a long time.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by chrisper on Sunday February 25, 2018 @03:40AM (#16457894)
It takes 12 years to become eligible for citizenship.