Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human rights fears

Re:Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human ... by pmlnr on Saturday February 24, 2018 @02:26PM (#16454805)

> Unless you’re technically sophisticated, you’re unlikely to pursue alternatives which provide a greater degree of security and require a bit of technical know how.

I'm completely pro-privacy, but I need to ask: why would ordinary people's ordinary data need better security? Even if iCloud might be decrypted by the government. If it's data like bills, government issued photos of ID cards, family photos, it will most likely won't matter at all and the security is good enough, just like anything available.

Once you do have a reason to encrypt something, learning GPG, LUKS, etc. is not that hard or that technical.

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Re:Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human ... by saagarjha on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:58PM (#16456234)

Almost everyone does something that can be construed as being illegal. By allowing unfettered access to private information, this makes it much easier for laws to be selectively enforced in ways that benefit the government.

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Re:Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human ... by techrede on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:40PM (#16457173)

> Almost everyone does something that can be construed as being illegal. By allowing unfettered access to private information, this makes it much easier for laws to be selectively enforced in ways that benefit the government.

Exactly. It could be something as simple as guilt by association. Even though you might not have done anything illegal yourself, you may have the contact information of someone who is on a watchlist or has been convicted of a crime. For example, China is looking into developing a social credit rating system, any association an individual has to persons who the government consider less reputable could have real impacts on their credit rating.

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Re:Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human ... by blfr on Saturday February 24, 2018 @03:03PM (#16455043)

LUKS, maybe. Although it lacks deniability.

GPG, however, has proven to be virtually impossible to properly use and almost no one does, even in the hacker crowd.

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