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Re:Signal Foundation by tptacek on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @03:24PM (#16432645)
Telegram isn't remotely similar to Signal. Telegram communications aren't encrypted by default, and Telegram group chat messages aren't encrypted at all.
Re:Signal Foundation by skrowl on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @04:22PM (#16433083)
This is 100% false. EVERYTHING that goes over the wire is encrypted, always, just like when you're on a TLS website such as your bank.

Group chats aren't end-to-end encrypted, and 1 on 1 chats are only end-to-end encrypted if you make it a Secret Chat.

Re:Signal Foundation by tortasaur on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @11:04PM (#16435074)
Did you really think they were talking about SSL in this context? Of course they meant E2E.
Re:Signal Foundation by skrowl on Thursday February 22, 2018 @10:27AM (#16438156)
To say there's no encryption AT ALL when it's fully encrypted over the wire is still false. Not having E2E encryption is different than not having encryption AT ALL.
Re:Signal Foundation by idlewords on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:31AM (#16447342)
They are encrypted in the same sense that the Sesame Street website is encrypted.
Re:Signal Foundation by ekiru on Thursday February 22, 2018 @11:55AM (#16438998)
So, it's similar to Facebook Messenger rather than to Signal?

(Actually I think Messenger might support E2EE group chats, but I'm not sure.)