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Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by arkades on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:32PM (#16416948)
I don’t agree with you, but I am upvoting you because you are contributing meaningfully to the conversation with earnest discussion and a valid, if IMO incorrect, viewpoint.

I am disheartened to see your post greying out.

Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by asteli on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:30PM (#16417644)
Thanks! I appreciate that. I'm logic-ing as best I can, but I'm definitely not a sociologist. I had to read more about "equality of outcome" because I wasn't familiar with the concept.

I concede though, that some methods of affirmative action would appear to be local attempts to enforce "equality of outcome," but I don't think this is the goal of affirmative action campaigns. If anything, it's a measure taken (locally) to create an environment that can support equal opportunity (locally). As society approaches having equality of opportunity, I imagine that this strategy would lose its utility and be discarded.

Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by gizmo686 on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:57PM (#16417058)
Sometimes people do not downvote individual comments, but rather a sequence of comments. More specifically, there might be behavior that is only apparent when looking at multiple comments that justifies the downvoting, even if the actual downvote happens to be applied to an individual comment.

In this case, in the span of two comments, the poster went from:

>Do people actually argue in favor of equality of outcomes? Can't say I've ever seen this done, but then again I haven't seen everything.

to arguing in favor of equality of outcomes.

Individually, both of these posts are fine; but together are problematic.

Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by stcredzero on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:27PM (#16417177)
Individually, both of these posts are fine; but together are problematic.

So either this is a troll, or it's an example of someone so "ideologically possessed" they think they're justified to lie in pursuit of their goals.

Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by asteli on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:10PM (#16417559)
I'm disappointed that you've marked me as someone with an ulterior motive. If I have a logical inconsistency, feel free to point that out without making assumptions about my intentions.
Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by stcredzero on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:26PM (#16417628)
Okay, sorry, I left out the possibility that you're just mistaken. So you're mistaken. There, fixed it for people who actually read carefully.
Re:Thinking Critically About Social Justice by sctb on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @03:05PM (#16423668)
We need you to dial back the thorniness, please. These tit-for-tats are unfortunately activating for the (very few) participants and noise for everyone else.