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Re:Ancient DNA sheds light on what happened to the Taino, th... by agumonkey on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:25PM (#16416918)
it's true that culture shock was at play, that said was it hard to just back off and accept that people whoever they are should keep their land ?

methinks that it gave one big and convenient argument to the takeover for material and spices. they're inhuman, we shall have no shame in wiping them.

I read recently about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Ginés_de_Sepúlveda and his nemesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_de_las_Casas (who lived in South America and could see through the cultural barrier)

Their was a movie about the meeting with the pope also.

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Re:Ancient DNA sheds light on what happened to the Taino, th... by jdminhbg on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:28PM (#16417636)
You're right that a lot of these stories are retold as propaganda to justify conquest but:

> was it hard to just back off and accept that people whoever they are should keep their land ?

It was only "theirs" by the same process of brutal conquest that the Spaniards later turned on them.

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Re:Ancient DNA sheds light on what happened to the Taino, th... by agumonkey on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @09:40AM (#16420599)
unless they came on virgin land which is probable
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Re:Ancient DNA sheds light on what happened to the Taino, th... by shard972 on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:04AM (#16418361)
> that said was it hard to just back off and accept that people whoever they are should keep their land ?

Yes? Consider Australia's situation where the natives had 0 concept of land ownership and sovereignty. Were the british colonists looking for more land just to assume that the aboriginals own the whole entire continent? Even though they used barely any of it at one time?

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Re:Ancient DNA sheds light on what happened to the Taino, th... by agumonkey on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @09:42AM (#16420612)
Mah that's ridiculous; even if they use only 10% most colonies ended up abusing and keeping natives at lower than they needed to enjoy their lives as they always did.

Plus it's easy to come and negotiate friendly, especially in Australia where it's not like it's crowded .

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