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Re:What to do when tech jobs go bad by s73v3r_ on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:16PM (#16415818)
Or, the managers are idiots.

You're trying really hard to bring this back to always being the developer's fault, and you're ignoring that, many times, management just doesn't listen. You can explain until you're blue in the face, but if they don't want to listen, nothing will make them do so.

Re:What to do when tech jobs go bad by commandlinefan on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @01:42PM (#16422743)
> you're ignoring that, many times, management just doesn't listen

And ignoring that, almost all of the time, the programmer has very little power in these sorts of transactions.

Re:What to do when tech jobs go bad by chatmasta on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:31PM (#16416287)
Everybody is an idiot about most things. As an expert in a domain, your job is to help non-experts be less of an idiot when making decisions that depend on things you know better than them. You won’t get very far with a stonewalling attitude of “well, the manager was an idiot.” You need to establish trust and a working relationship where you both listen to each other.
Re:What to do when tech jobs go bad by Nnuie21 on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:01PM (#16417073)
Making my boss less of an idiot is something outside of my control. I can tell them "don't do this" over and over again. If they do it anyway, how is that my fault?
Re:What to do when tech jobs go bad by s73v3r_ on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:50PM (#16423546)
In an ideal world, sure. But I live in the real world, where there are lots of managers that are just plain shitty, and no amount of explanation will change their mind. It just does not work at all. Blaming the developer is not a reasonable thing to do in that situation.