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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by dwringer on Monday February 19, 2018 @02:59PM (#16415268)
As I understand it, Google actually had been cooperating with China's censorship requests, but didn't like it, and Google made the decision themselves[1] to relocate offices [ED: web search was moved but Google maintains offices in mainland China] to Hong Kong rather than continue self-censorship.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/mar/23/google-ch...

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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by seanmcdirmid on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:15PM (#16415369)
Google didn't "relocate" to Hong Kong, their offices in Wudaokou kept running, they just shutdown their Mainland-based webserver.
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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by mattnewton on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:28PM (#16415464)
And redirected it to Hong Kong, which was then blocked, because they weren’t playing ball anymore.
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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by seanmcdirmid on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:40PM (#16415564)
Yes, but google still has other business in china (android, selling ads to Chinese customers). They sacrificed their web search business, but not everything else.
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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by sidibe on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:54PM (#16415665)
I'm pretty sure nothing Google-related works in China. Youtube/search/gmail etc. are all blocked.

They have Android phones but no Google services on them. They do sell ads there but to companies targeting Chinese people outside of China.

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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by seanmcdirmid on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:59PM (#16415694)
They just recently opened a new office in Shenzhen, so something is going on, but I mostly agree.
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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by yorwba on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:09PM (#16417555)
There are a few services that work. Google Translate is available, and you can connect to gmail using an email client instead of the website.
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Re:How Apple is paving the way to a ‘cloud dictatorship’ in ... by dwringer on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:49PM (#16415627)
I apologize for my misleading statements. From my amateur reading of the coverage at the time, I had no idea of this; I appreciate the additional information.
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