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Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by rekado on Sunday February 18, 2018 @03:11PM (#16408156)
> we've like already imported most lisp features into modern languages anyway

This makes it sound as if there are no modern lisps.

What's the big deal of using a lispy language? Do other languages really need to desperately try to reimplement features that come more naturally to lispy languages? Are parentheses (only the round ones) really that much of a deterrent to motivate excessive work like that?

I'm very happy with Guile and Racket.

Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by twblalock on Sunday February 18, 2018 @03:45PM (#16408458)
Do you use them professionally?

It seems to me that very few companies use Lisp-like languages used in production. Even Haskell seems more common.

The big deal with using Lispy languages is that companies don't want to use them -- it's a lot easier to hire developers who know other languages. So, I'm stuck with Java whether I like it or not, and I appreciate any functional programming features that can be packed in to new Java releases, even if they end up being a bit clunky.

Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by phyrex on Sunday February 18, 2018 @04:12PM (#16408701)
Quite a lot of companies use Clojure professionally though. And you’re in luck, it plays great with Java!
Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by Barrin92 on Sunday February 18, 2018 @04:06PM (#16408642)
this doesn't really seem to be a unique feature of 'lispy' languages because the overwhelming majority of languages does not have wide adoption in the market.

The reason why adoption concentrates on a few languages is mostly network effects rather than objective features of the language itself.

Maybe it's time for us to think about how to increase the adoption of languages rather than trying to bolt every feature onto java just because there is a lot of java code and devs. We're going to be stuck in a never-ending mess of complication and legacy.

Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by erikj on Sunday February 18, 2018 @06:26PM (#16409530)
Yeah, Lisp actually used to benefit from network effects between the 60s and the 80s, before the AI winter struck and Lisp was sacrificed as a scapegoat by the industry (MCC and NASA JPL are probably the most well-publicized cases).
Re:What Made Lisp Different (2002) by rekado on Sunday February 18, 2018 @04:08PM (#16408667)
Yes, I use Guile for work. (But I work in a not-for-profit environment.)