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Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by Tharkun on Saturday February 17, 2018 @11:39AM (#16401401)
That's a ridiculous price to pay for ketamine. Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff?

$6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ...

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by atomical on Saturday February 17, 2018 @11:56AM (#16401482)
> Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff?

Supervision by a nurse. It's usually contracted out.

> $6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ...

If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by LaikaF on Saturday February 17, 2018 @02:19PM (#16402214)
Med grade K pops up for about 140 USD a gram. It's not hard to get insulin needles. There are guides on how to IV on the internet.

This would likely last much shorter then an infusion as there's a limited options for setting a running IV as opposed to just a single injection.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by Lambdanaut on Saturday February 17, 2018 @02:57PM (#16402409)
That's US street price. On the dark web you can get medical grade for $20 a gram.
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by sh4z on Saturday February 17, 2018 @03:12PM (#16402461)
And from a veterinarian in Central America for less than $5 a gram. Is there a difference between "medical grade" and what is used for animals?
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by LaikaF on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:50PM (#16403235)
I said medical to differentiate it from street k which comes as a powder and is usually cut which is bad for injection.

And there shouldn't be a difference between animal and human ketamine.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by rbanffy on Saturday February 17, 2018 @04:04PM (#16402687)
Animals rarely sue their doctors.
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by robocat on Saturday February 17, 2018 @04:19PM (#16402764)
Your "medical grade" could be fake on the darkweb, who knows what you are getting?

"In the village of Boshe, underground laboratories are producing ketamine cheaply in large amounts." from:

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-33472971/inside-...

I also wouldn't be trusting the packaging wasn't fake (or refilled).

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by sincerely on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:07PM (#16403016)
The darkweb is generally safer than buying shit from random people in real life
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by LaikaF on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:55PM (#16403260)
Don't think it'd be worth the trouble.

They'd more likely produce the powder as that's easier to conceal for shipping or more likely just make DCK which is still legal.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by rorykoehler on Sunday February 18, 2018 @01:57AM (#16404857)
Just use a test kit
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by LaikaF on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:49PM (#16403225)
No you can't. Powder is 60-70 USD, vial liquid is 120-140 USD. If you want to import from South Africa it can be that cheap but that stuff sucks.
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by jack_h on Saturday February 17, 2018 @12:59PM (#16401788)
> If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits.

At the same time since insurance doesn't cover this the only real option for people who don't have that kind of money (myself included) is black market self-administration or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by atomical on Saturday February 17, 2018 @08:25PM (#16403881)
> or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective.

It's not proven. There are a few articles and a few success stories. It isn't a panacea. The cost is only an issue after someone has tried many traditional therapies.

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by empath75 on Saturday February 17, 2018 @02:54PM (#16402399)
Street ketamine is usually from vets..
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by WalterSear on Saturday February 17, 2018 @06:21PM (#16403390)
According to my psychiatrist, you are paying for the malpractice insurance of a doctor performing unestablished medical treatments.
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by aaavl2821 on Saturday February 17, 2018 @07:16PM (#16403624)
That might be misinformed, although $2-6k per infusion is very very high. That price is simply providing a high profit to the provider

There is a group of doctors who provide ketamine therapy and they've created some resources for interested patients. They say cost should be $400-800 per infusion and outline the drivers: http://www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/cost/

Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by WalterSear on Sunday February 18, 2018 @01:05AM (#16404715)
Fwiw, $800 is the price I was quoted.
Re:New studies zero in on roots of depression and how ketami... by atomical on Saturday February 17, 2018 @08:22PM (#16403871)
You're paying for the risk that the doctor is taking. It's going directly into his pocket though. That's why regional prices are so far apart.