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Re:Learning to program is getting harder by kbwt on Saturday February 17, 2018 @07:06AM (#16400340)
The consensus seems to be that those types of skills do not belong in a Higher Learning institution. In Germany, the saying is "You do not need a Computer to study CS", although it sounds wrong in English because CS literally contains the word "Computer" while the German term for CS (Informatik) is a mashed-together version of Information and Mathematics.

Some German Universities (TUM, KIT) pride themselves on that last point so much, they actually pass off the CS degree as an Informatics degree on the English version of their diploma transcripts.

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