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Re:Learning to program is getting harder by Figs on Saturday February 17, 2018 @01:25AM (#16399368)
> Teaching these skills in CS curriculum would probably be a good idea.

It was included in my college CS curriculum, using the most obvious text (Debugging, by Agans) almost 10 years ago -- though I had a head start, since I read a copy of it from my public library about 4~5 years before that.

If other schools haven't followed suit, I have to ask "What on earth is taking them so long?"

Re:Learning to program is getting harder by kbwt on Saturday February 17, 2018 @07:06AM (#16400340)
The consensus seems to be that those types of skills do not belong in a Higher Learning institution. In Germany, the saying is "You do not need a Computer to study CS", although it sounds wrong in English because CS literally contains the word "Computer" while the German term for CS (Informatik) is a mashed-together version of Information and Mathematics.

Some German Universities (TUM, KIT) pride themselves on that last point so much, they actually pass off the CS degree as an Informatics degree on the English version of their diploma transcripts.