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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by bambax on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:02AM (#16392768)
You seem to be inferring that I said that no non-western civilization ever used the horse?

I said no such thing.

I said that a great number of civilization and cultures, that lasted for many centuries, developed without ever using horses, and that therefore, the horse cannot be considered to define all of human civilization.

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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by toasterlovin on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:14AM (#16392858)
Domestication of the horse shaped human history pretty much everywhere except Africa and Southeast Asia.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by bambax on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:17AM (#16393375)
And America(s) before the Europeans. And all the brillant cultures of the Pacific islands. Etc. So, really not "everywhere".
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by toasterlovin on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:43AM (#16393576)
Yeah, but the Europeans showing up is part of history in the Americas. Thus, the horse influenced human history throughout most of the world. And the cultures of the pacific islands aren't really capable of proving or disproving any broad generalizations about human history. The pacific islands are separated from the mainland by thousands of miles and constitute a tiny land mass.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by tacomonstrous on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:10AM (#16393305)
Also, the Americas till the Europeans showed up.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by toasterlovin on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:47AM (#16393615)
The Europeans showing up is part of history. And the horse is one of the things which gave Europeans a huge advantage over the native populations here. Hence, I, a descendant of Europeans, am writing this to you from the Americas.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by samastur on Friday February 16, 2018 @12:02PM (#16393738)
Not nearly as much as germs and muskets.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by jessaustin on Friday February 16, 2018 @01:10PM (#16394344)
Everyone has germs, but they wouldn't have had the muskets and more notably the boats to get here without the horse.
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Re:The Horse Helped Shape Our World at Great Expense to Itself by philwelch on Friday February 16, 2018 @02:25PM (#16395159)
If it wasn't for germs and muskets, the Comanche would have conquered North America just like the Mongols conquered Eurasia.
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