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Re:Email is your electronic memory by e12e on Thursday February 15, 2018 @05:17PM (#16388275)
Yeah well. It's email. Either the postcard is (cryptographically) signed by a personally trusted sender, or it's unsigned.

It's not like impersonation is dead. When I signed up for the Gmail roll-out, [email protected] was reserved, but you can email me at [email protected] - a poor Norwegian translation equivalent. More importantly, I can email you from that address, and tell you there's a problem with your account, could you please verify that your password is "hunter2", if not email your current password so we can verify that your account is secure (not that I ever have, or will, I got the account for a laugh).

Federated trust (s/mime) or Web of trust/direct trust(gpg) secures email. All this domain pseudo secure dns nonsense... I'm not sure I accept it's better than static analysis.

Re:Email is your electronic memory by kuschku on Thursday February 15, 2018 @05:36PM (#16388409)
The point isn't to verify the account, the point is to validate that the account belongs to a certain server.

If I get email from [email protected], then I now know it's from example.tld. If the mail is spam, I can ask example.tld to block alice, or I can simply blacklist example.tld.

The important part in this is spam prevention, and that if I get an email from @paypal.com, knowing that it's real.

What you're complaining about is another question, but not really relevant. Google always uses @google.com for employees, and if you get an email from that, it's real.

This is about enforcing identification, not verification, security, trust, or anything else.

Re:Email is your electronic memory by e12e on Thursday February 15, 2018 @08:37PM (#16389282)
> If I get email from [email protected], then I now know it's from example.tld. If the mail is spam, I can ask example.tld to block alice, or I can simply blacklist example.tld.

Is this better than graylist+whitelist? Is it better than content based filtering? I'm not convinced.

Is it better than requiring tls with valid cert for smtp? I can't see how.

Rather than all this mess, I think I'd prefer we start at tls/ssl required for smtp...