News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Who Killed the Junior Developer?. Parent comment

Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by wccrawford on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @11:02AM (#16376744)
We have a pre-interview test that is basically "use flickr's api to show some pictures", with a few details about how the pictures are sized and arranged. Applicants that have gone to bootcamps and even college frequently fail this miserably. Many of the rest fail to understand the details. We even had one use a completely different end point than the one specified by URL to the documentation. Some have just given up and turned nothing in, or something that they admitted didn't work.

These are candidates that we liked their resume enough to give them a shot, not just anyone who applied.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by mixmastamyk on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @12:52PM (#16377687)
I think teaching is a bit behind on the rest api thing, probably isn’t specifically taught. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t learn it.

Why do you refuse to mentor a few of them? /s

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by mattmanser on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @12:31PM (#16377500)
That's, errr, a very high bar you got there.

People got it working, showing they can code just fine, and you fail them because they got some details wrong?

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by Raidion on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:22PM (#16378502)
If you have only one or two positions open, have no trouble finding applicants, why not give a test that has a 5% pass rate if that means you end up with 6 people to choose from and still have to turn people away? What would the advantage be of making it easier just so you would have to review and turn even more people away?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by wccrawford on Thursday February 15, 2018 @11:47AM (#16385455)
We aren't looking for someone that has to be told repeatedly to read the entire ticket and actually do everything in it. We're looking for detail-oriented people.

And we find them. It's so much easier to work with them.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Who Killed the Junior Developer? by wu_tang_chris on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @03:03PM (#16378875)
that's a super regular bar that anyone who's moderately able to program or learn new things should be able to jump over easily. details are important in a technical field.
[ Parent | on HN ]