Re:I’m no longer advocating for clean energy; here’s why (2017)
by mehrdadn on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @01:36AM
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Does anyone know if anyone in the world has been able to make even a gross estimate of how much energy (and in general, environmental impact) goes into making clean energy, and how it actually compares to dirty energy when everything is included? (I mean including everything starting with mining the relevant metals, etc.)
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Re:I’m no longer advocating for clean energy; here’s why (2017)
by tripletmass on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:11PM
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Yes, they visit HN regularly (posting every other week ad minimum!) It hasn't been every everyone (economists in CAR or Zimbabwe, for example) and AAAS/Nature Review articles (also Special Issues c.f. any journal you can like) don't always pick out the pain points down to the last CIGS-sublimating Cobalt miner, but pain leaving is always discussed.
Farming algae outside urchin barrens (seaweed to the roof detail trim curb? arborea.io ) has come in to replace Biodynamic Gardening as a sink for phenanthrenes and other incomplete carbon releases. Finding ocean adaptations that could survive a failure to sequester CO2 production outside the ocean is under study (thermophile anaerobes will convert some CO2, favored algae may be found...)
I've rambled on to reiterate TFA's point to the title; year-on-year surplus weather damage makes advocacy moot in the manner of obvious; people universally know they like to do without damage or the migration/culling it sends around esp. between the equator and Ireland (or new global south; will the PLA make Shin New Zealand?)
Re:I’m no longer advocating for clean energy; here’s why (2017)
by js8 on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @05:17AM
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This is called EROEI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_inve...